Re: [css-d] Opera Width Problems

2005-07-21 Thread Matthew Ohlman
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Sure. Opera is rendering 'width: 26.556%;' as 'width: 26%;'. Opera can't handle decimals on percentages at all, so those width-values will not add up to 100%. Thanks for the info Georg. So, does it really matter if I use fixed with instead of percent. I calculated the

Re: [css-d] basic div IE/Firefox questions

2005-07-21 Thread Jim Davis
Christy, These links offer different solutions to your design objectives: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/pvii_columns/index.htm http://wellstyled.com/css-2col-fluid-layout.html HTH Jim On 7/21/05, Christy Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.animalwise.ca/index2.html > >

Re: [css-d] Opera Width Problems

2005-07-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Matthew Ohlman wrote: http://pictures.ohlman.com/phcac/index.html - Page Opera isn't specifying the width big enough on the two div elements beside the big picture at the top. Has anybody encountered this before? Sure. Opera is rendering 'width: 26.556%;' as 'width: 26%;'. Opera can't hand

RE: [css-d] Music Files and Future CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Ric & Jude Raftis
> Oh, see...now you're talking about all new implementations of CSS ;) > All implementations (especially Microsoft's) will be buggy about some > things in CSS. That's the way life is nowadays... Koori, You terrify me when you mention "especially Microsoft's"! Personally, I think that's the very

[css-d] Opera Width Problems

2005-07-21 Thread Matthew Ohlman
Hey List: I am having some problems in Opera 8 with width. I have a wrapper div that has a fixed width of 750px. All the other widths inside that are defined by %. I have specifically calculated each one, and I thought all was going well until I looked at my page in Opera 8. http://pictur

[css-d] followup: The disappearing border as font size changes

2005-07-21 Thread Phil Glatz
tried but still not working Definitely the gecko roundup error - thanks to all for your help. http://www.glatz.com/test6.php I'm on Windows XP - with IE 6, I see an orange border line at the top and a red border line at the bottom of each box, But with Mozilla 1.05, the red line disappears

[css-d] Table Row separation

2005-07-21 Thread Lst Recv
It seems that the padding and margin properties don't work for table rows. Is their an equivalent that will do the same thing - create blank colored space (ala padding) and blank space (ala margin) in between rows? Will it work on IE 5+? (I can use the height property, but a) I then need to fix

Re: [css-d] Ineffective Print Stylesheet

2005-07-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Colin McAllister wrote: I have tried - as the article suggests - to put the print code into a separate linked stylesheet. As soon as I take this code; "div#main{margin: 0 0.5cm}" out of the "@media print" in the html source, and put it into the linked print stylesheet, the print version of t

Re: [css-d] Navigation layout problem

2005-07-21 Thread Richard Grevers
On 7/21/05, Lindsey Kuper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Oops. I forgot to edit the subject in my email of a few minutes ago. > Please disregard that one.) > > Good morning, > > Here's a layout problem I haven't been able to work out. > > http://www.ibctv.com/site/contact > > In Firefox 1/Wind

[css-d] basic div IE/Firefox questions

2005-07-21 Thread Christy Weese
Hi all, I have some questions that have probably been answered many times before so I'll thank everyone in advance for their patience. Here is the page: http://www.animalwise.ca/index2.html and css: http://www.animalwise.ca/animalwise-layout.css I have the left menu and the main content in a w

Re: [css-d] floating w/ 3 col help

2005-07-21 Thread artcoder
>This is my first attempt at web design and I am having some trouble >with differences between IE 6 and FireFox. There seems to be a large >gap between the header div and the contentwrap div in FireFox and a >smaller one in IE 6. I don't want any gap at all, you will see there >is a one pixel whit

[css-d] Differences in IE and FireFox - Help plz

2005-07-21 Thread Richard Baldwin
Hi all, This is my first attempt at web design and I am having some trouble with differences between IE 6 and FireFox. There seems to be a large gap between the header div and the contentwrap div in FireFox and a smaller one in IE 6. I don't want any gap at all, you will see there is a one pixel w

Re: [css-d] IE help. Please

2005-07-21 Thread saul
Hello, I getting the page to work in IE, I have made it unwork in FF and Safari. Saul On Jul 21, 2005, at 1:17 PM, saul wrote: Sorry about that. The link is http://www.inventionshow.com/development/newProductScout/ newProductScoutPageB.html There was a space in the last posting. Saul

Re: [css-d] simple site check.

2005-07-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
jeremy wrote: than you so much... I cant believe it was that simple... i wouldnt have guessed that float:left would have made my block of text move up. I guess what float:left actually does, is pull the block towards the top left corner. Jeremy, Understanding how floats work is essential

Re: [css-d] Navigation layout problem

2005-07-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Lindsey Kuper wrote: http://www.ibctv.com/site/contact In Firefox 1/Windows, the silver navigation bar at the top of the page extends farther out to the right than it should. In IE6/Windows, it breaks differently: the white containing box with the black border ("MetaContainer") is pushed too f

Re: [css-d] site alignment help

2005-07-21 Thread jeremy
So i was able to fix both issues... the nav on the left had a {margin: 10px;} and i never specified the other values, it was using the browser defaults. the other prob was a issue.. i needed to contain the 2 items in the center collumn within their own div. thanks in advance if you alread

Re: [css-d] unordered list in multiple columns?

2005-07-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a long unordered list that is sorted alpha and that I would prefer to be split into multiple columns. The hard part is that I instead of it appearing alphabetically right to left, I want it to appear alphabetically top to bottom, and after a certain amount of spa

Re: [css-d] The disappearing border as font size changes

2005-07-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Phil Glatz wrote: http://www.glatz.com/test6.php I'm on Windows XP - with IE 6, I see an orange border line at the top and a red border line at the bottom of each box, But with Mozilla 1.05, the red line disappears between "line 2" and "line 3". If I increase the browser's font size, the r

[css-d] I need help with ALA tutorial Taming Lists

2005-07-21 Thread cappellano
HI all! Can anyone help me with this tutorial? I´d like to try the tab one, but I cant fallow it... :/ Where´s the markup he tell us about? link: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/ I made my own markup and tried to fallow only the css, but it´s not working... If someone wants to lo

Re: [css-d] Son of SuckerFish menu, IE & z-index

2005-07-21 Thread Calvin Dunkley
Hi David, I recently had a similar issue, I believe the solution for IE was to apply the z-index to the #nav div itself. Hope this helps, Calvin On 7/21/05, Michiel van der Blonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Here's a working version: http://www.cbaruba.org > I don't remember how I solv

[css-d] site alignment help

2005-07-21 Thread jeremy
ok,.. so once again, i am having alignment issues, and would love a little advice. I have 2 different objects that I cant seem to get into place. http://tct2005.com/wp/index.php?cat=20 -one is the navigation on the left. -the other is the sidebar on the right. I would like it if both of them w

Re: [css-d] Newbie: IE 6 positioning problems

2005-07-21 Thread Schalk Neethling
Paul Have a look a this article and the follow on: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/ HTH Paul Melia wrote: Hello, I am attempting to make my first CSS website. I have created a very simple page. It renders properly in Safari, Netscape and Firefox. Using the Web Developer ext

[css-d] IE 7 is coming; do you know where your * html is? (was: Testing: Win inside OsX...)

2005-07-21 Thread Ben Curtis
On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Guillaume wrote: In fact, I was going to ask this to the list: many designers target Ie with conditional comments without mentioning the version they would like to filter. What is going to happen, with a global ... next version of Ie, that will have a better Css

Re: [css-d] Son of SuckerFish menu, IE & z-index

2005-07-21 Thread Michiel van der Blonk
Hi, Here's a working version: http://www.cbaruba.org I don't remember how I solved it, and the CSS might look pretty complex, but maybe from this version you can find out how it's done. You might also have to look in the javascript code. I also modified this version to hide items behind an I

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Music Files and CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Adam Kuehn
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: On 7/21/05, T Shorrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about musican's > websites - should they, too, remain silent? Yes, they should. Would you feel the same about your TV if it played soundtrack from five channels at once? Perhaps I was not clear before: This t

Re: [css-d] Reverse Stacking Order

2005-07-21 Thread Adam Kuehn
Justin Piper wrote: > I don't even see that what you are asking for is even in any of the CSS3 drafts, although the Presentation Levels module comes closest. Without "decrement", though, you'd still need to explicitly define > each layer. But unless mis-interpreting the spec, I'm not sure

[css-d] Vertical Align on Two Floated Elements

2005-07-21 Thread Eric Knudtson
Does anyone know if it is possible to vertically center two floated elements within their parent element? My desire is to have a list element contain an image and a paragraph. The image and the text should appear adjacent to eachother, not stacked (meaning I'm probably going to need to use floats

Re: [css-d] Testing: Win inside OsX...

2005-07-21 Thread Ben Curtis
On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Oliver Michalak wrote: Rendering in standalone installs is often OK, but with VPC you install exactly what your visitors use. I know of no other way short of massive partitioning of the drive to have one computer host so many accurate test systems. VMware

[css-d] Newbie: IE 6 positioning problems

2005-07-21 Thread Paul Melia
Hello, I am attempting to make my first CSS website. I have created a very simple page. It renders properly in Safari, Netscape and Firefox. Using the Web Developer extension in Firefox, I have confirmed that the page is valid HTML and has valid CSS. As I am a complete newbie to CSS layout, I

Re: [css-d] Background overlapping in float layout

2005-07-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Jørgen Farum Jensen schrieb: I'm having a problem with an example page I've constructed, http://www.webdesign101.dk/x/cssdiscuss/eksempel_8.html The problem is confined to IE, which displays a band of background color in the right hand column on window resize. your page starts like this:

Re: [css-d] IE help. Please

2005-07-21 Thread saul
Sorry about that. The link is http://www.inventionshow.com/development/newProductScout/ newProductScoutPageB.html There was a space in the last posting. Saul On Jul 21, 2005, at 12:54 PM, David Laakso wrote: saul wrote: http://www.inventionshow.com/development/newProductScout/ newProduc

Re: [css-d] Music Files and CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/21/05, T Shorrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hmm.. in your opinion anyway. The web is a multi-media platform... I > would hate my TV, DVD's etc to be silent. Websites are often an advert > for people's business, and they use sound on their TV ads and, > probably, in their presentations, prom

Re: [css-d] Testing: Win inside OsX...

2005-07-21 Thread Guillaume
Ben, thank you for such a detailed report / explanation of the use of Vpc... Added some comments below... That's the prep work, here's the CSS pay-off: certain technologies are shared in the Windows system, and so installing even "standalone" versions of Internet Explorer on the same Windows

RE: [css-d] Ineffective Print Stylesheet

2005-07-21 Thread Debbie Flitner
---Original Message- - I have been trying to use the SantaKlauss "Pure CSS Tooltips" - found at; http://web.archive.org/web/20040211063731/http://www.madaboutstyle.com/tooltip2.html I have tried - as the article suggests - to put the print code into a separate linked stylesheet. As soon as I

Re: [css-d] Music Files and CSS

2005-07-21 Thread T Shorrock
hmm.. in your opinion anyway. The web is a multi-media platform... I would hate my TV, DVD's etc to be silent. Websites are often an advert for people's business, and they use sound on their TV ads and, probably, in their presentations, promotion videos... why not on their Internet ad. Also, re

Re: [css-d] Reverse Stacking Order

2005-07-21 Thread Justin Piper
On 7/21/05, Adam Kuehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Justin Piper wrote: > >Other than by explicitly defining the > >z-index for each element, is it possible to reverse this, so that > >earlier elements are drawn above later ones? > > I don't even see that what you are asking for is even in any of

[css-d] IE help. Please

2005-07-21 Thread saul
Hello List, I'm having a lousy time with IE 5.X getting the main content to flow properly in the layout. And in IE 6, when the width gets too small, the center content disappears altogether. I know it's probably a small item in the CSS that's causing it, but I cannot seem to get it right.

Re: [css-d] Testing: Win inside OsX...

2005-07-21 Thread Ben Curtis
On Jul 21, 2005, at 6:58 AM, Adam Kuehn wrote: I'd like to use a Windows emulator, Virtual Pc on Mac OsX, to resolve this issues... Could someone just give me some feedback about using this software: does it exactly manage browsers as a Pc would...Will the browser render engines run the st

[css-d] Initial Site Check Please: Web Album

2005-07-21 Thread T Shorrock
Hi, I've put together the main pages of a new web album site I'm putting together. I wondered if some of you lovely people out there could go and take a look when you've a moment. The site is at: www.vandevelde.co.uk/WebAlbum/index.html You can use the 'Enter Album Here' link to gain access

[css-d] Inline image not appearing in IE/Win

2005-07-21 Thread H Shaw
Hi all, I'm having a problem in IE/Win where the background color of the main "content" div in the page linked below, is covering up the embedded divs (a photo/caption div and the footer div) that reside within the "content" div. It looks perfect in FireFox, so you can reference what it's supposed

[css-d] Son of SuckerFish menu, IE & z-index

2005-07-21 Thread David Boddie
Hello all, I have another quick problem that I need some help with, since I don't quite know much about how to use layers and z-index. I have a modified Sun of Suckerfish menu (the #nav div) that is floated to the left in a column. So far it has been great to work with, however, on short pages

[css-d] Background overlapping in float layout

2005-07-21 Thread Jørgen Farum Jensen
I'm having a problem with an example page I've constructed, http://www.webdesign101.dk/x/cssdiscuss/eksempel_8.html The problem is confined to IE, which displays a band of background color in the right hand column on window resize. I'm at a loss to explain what is happening. Any help would be

Re: [css-d] Reverse Stacking Order

2005-07-21 Thread Adam Kuehn
Justin Piper wrote: By default, siblings with the same z-index are stacked according to their position in the document tree, with elements obscuring the elements which came before them. Other than by explicitly defining the z-index for each element, is it possible to reverse this, so that earlier

RE: [css-d] Music Files and CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Lindsey Kuper
Also, you can read the original Flash Satay article at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay. I think it's slightly less sanitized than the version that appears on the Macromedia site. The gist is the same, though. =) Lindsey > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:39:35 +1000 > From: "Ric & Jude

Re: [css-d] PNG Transparency in IE for background-image

2005-07-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Tony Haddon schrieb: http://www.tonyhaddon.com/snozone/3_Booking_Activity.html your behavior manipulates the img element, not the background-property. img {behavior: url("pngbehavior.htc");} it is possible to get cross-browser backgrounds to work http://www.daltonlp.com/daltonlp.cgi?item_type

[css-d] Reverse Stacking Order

2005-07-21 Thread Justin Piper
By default, siblings with the same z-index are stacked according to their position in the document tree, with elements obscuring the elements which came before them. Other than by explicitly defining the z-index for each element, is it possible to reverse this, so that earlier elements are drawn ab

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Music Files and CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Koori Tora
I hadn't reached this message yet, everybody. Please disregard my new post entitled "Music Files and Future CSS". My apologies. On 7/21/05, Adam Kuehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > david wrote: > >Hmm, then CSS will also have to expand to include forcing a control > >to do just that, won't it? Wo

[css-d] Column headache

2005-07-21 Thread Vincent Hide
Hi All, I am having trouble trying to get the columns in this layout to work properly: http://www.lampdesign.co.uk/desdev/vsc/ The following image is how it should be shaping up: http://www.lampdesign.co.uk/desdev/vsc/vsc_real.png Problems: - In firefox the left column content is floating abo

Re: [css-d] PNG Transparency in IE for background-image

2005-07-21 Thread Koori Tora
On 7/21/05, Tony Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone (hope this isn't a little off-topic), > > i'm totally stumped on this one not really up-to-speed on > behaviours... i found the IE fix for png transparency which seems to > apply just fine to the img element, but I have no clue a

[css-d] Music Files and Future CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Koori Tora
On 7/21/05, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Koori Tora wrote: > > Whoa...be nice ;) > > I am. That's why I always put multimedia stuff on my sites as clickable > links, rather than embedding them into the page. ;-) > > > I don't agree with forcing music on visitors. I believe that user > > de

Re: [css-d] Testing: Win inside OsX...

2005-07-21 Thread Adam Kuehn
Guillaume wrote: I'd like to use a Windows emulator, Virtual Pc on Mac OsX, to resolve this issues... Could someone just give me some feedback about using this software: does it exactly manage browsers as a Pc would...Will the browser render engines run the styles in this emulator as they wou

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Music Files and CSS

2005-07-21 Thread Adam Kuehn
david wrote: Hmm, then CSS will also have to expand to include forcing a control to do just that, won't it? Won't that be a wonderful new element of CSS to give us headaches dealing with buggy implementations ... Let's not discuss the possible bugs in possible implementations of possible CSS

Re: [css-d] floating w/ 3 col help

2005-07-21 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Steve Clay wrote: If he doesn't see the advantage of semantic markup enough to start learning CSS on his own, that may be a better place to start. Understandable. He is familiar with css, he just "doesn't see the point when you can use a table for complex stuff". A good portion of the site

Re: [css-d] floating w/ 3 col help

2005-07-21 Thread Michiel van der Blonk
Make him look at his site on a cellphone/pda and then do the same with google.com, msn.com or webstandards.org. There _is_ a difference between "semantic markup" and "tableless design". Both have value, but showing someone the values of semantic markup in order for them to do tableless design i

[css-d] Ineffective Print Stylesheet

2005-07-21 Thread Colin McAllister
I have been trying to use the SantaKlauss "Pure CSS Tooltips" - found at; http://web.archive.org/web/20040211063731/http://www.madaboutstyle.com/tooltip2.html I have tried - as the article suggests - to put the print code into a separate linked stylesheet. As soon as I take this code; "div#main{m

Re: [css-d] floating w/ 3 col help

2005-07-21 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, July 21, 2005, 1:44:15 AM, Brian Cummiskey wrote: > i'm trying to prove a friend wrong that his table/css design is not the > way to do it... so I took it upon myself to show him how its done If he doesn't see the advantage of semantic markup enough to start learning CSS on his own, tha

Re: [css-d] Differences when viewed in IE and FireFox, Plz help

2005-07-21 Thread Schalk Neethling
What is the site URL? Richard Baldwin wrote: Hi all, This is my first attempt at web design and I am having some trouble with differences between IE 6 and FireFox. There seems to be a large gap between the header div and the contentwrap div in FireFox and a smaller one in IE 6. I don't want an

[css-d] Testing: Win inside OsX...

2005-07-21 Thread Guillaume
Hi list, I would like to increase the Css tests i can run and manage cross-browser / cross platforms Css issues... I'd like to use a Windows emulator, Virtual Pc on Mac OsX, to resolve this issues... Could someone just give me some feedback about using this software: does it exactly manage br

[css-d] Differences when viewed in IE and FireFox, Plz help

2005-07-21 Thread Richard Baldwin
Hi all, This is my first attempt at web design and I am having some trouble with differences between IE 6 and FireFox. There seems to be a large gap between the header div and the contentwrap div in FireFox and a smaller one in IE 6. I don't want any gap at all, you will see there is a one pixel w

[css-d] PNG Transparency in IE for background-image

2005-07-21 Thread Tony Haddon
Hi everyone (hope this isn't a little off-topic), i'm totally stumped on this one not really up-to-speed on behaviours... i found the IE fix for png transparency which seems to apply just fine to the img element, but I have no clue about how I can make it work for a background-image. Any i