Hi all,
Here's a quote from a recent post, which I've modified to make a point.
I've removed the attribution, as my intention is not to single out any
person in particular, but to make an observation about something I've seen
with disappointing regularity:
I recognize the frustration with
Nancy Smith wrote:
I am doing my first CSS site and it is a killer.
First, it doesn't look right in Foxfire or Monzilla,
but only IE on the PC and Mac.
Code for FF. Hack IE.
Very frustrating.
Second, none of my jpegs show up on the site.
Images that do not appear in FF seldom have to d
Alan Gutierrez wrote:
A newbie question on styling forms.
A structure question...
What elements do I use to markup structure? DL/DT/DD? UL/LI?
For me label is a pretty logical way of marking up forms along with
fieldset all are designed to work in a form. IE has some presentat
Clean up your stylesheet for formatting and validation. Not that I 'tested'
it, but HTML at the very top of the file is probably preventing Mozilla
based browsers from interpretting it.
As a bit of another tip, you can optimize the size of your stylesheet by
putting all the padding attributes, etc
On 9/22/2005 7:26 PM Nancy Smith wrote:
I am doing my first CSS site and it is a killer.
First, it doesn't look right in Foxfire or Monzilla,
but only IE on the PC and Mac. Very frustrating.
Second, none of my jpegs show up on the site.
http://www.wminc.biz
Hi Nancy,
This isn't a CSS issu
Could you post a pice of the problematic CSS for the list?
thanks
On 9/22/05, Nancy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am doing my first CSS site and it is a killer.
> First, it doesn't look right in Foxfire or Monzilla,
> but only IE on the PC and Mac. Very frustrating.
> Second, none of my j
I have the following files:
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/test.htm
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/description.css
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/metal2.css
In the description.css file, if I float the .panel class, it forces
IE/Mac
users to have to scroll horizontally to view the w
> From: Nancy Smith
> Second, none of my jpegs show up on the site.
> http://www.wminc.biz
Nancy,
When I looked in http://www.wminc.biz/images/
I saw no such image. Looks to me like you forgot to upload them.
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2005/9/23, Nancy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I am doing my first CSS site and it is a killer.
> First, it doesn't look right in Foxfire or Monzilla,
Hi, some interesting browsers you have got ;)
> but only IE on the PC and Mac. Very frustrating.
> Second, none of my jpegs show up on the site.
I am doing my first CSS site and it is a killer.
First, it doesn't look right in Foxfire or Monzilla,
but only IE on the PC and Mac. Very frustrating.
Second, none of my jpegs show up on the site.
http://www.wminc.biz
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
- Title attributes are a tricky thing, and definitely NOT a valid
accessibility fallback. Titles explain more than meets the eye (or the
ear) on the first encounter - but not all users have title reading enabled
or have the patience/aptitude to see the rendered tooltip a title attribute
creates.
At 03:03 PM 9/22/2005, Steve Lockwood wrote:
Most of my html lists need to have a blank line between line items.
DreamWeaver (v6 through 8) shows the html as ...,
and BBEdit's syntax checker (v6 through 8) passes this as correct
for html 4.01 Transitional and xhtml 1.0 Transitional. In fact thi
> Most of my html lists need to have a blank line between line items.
> DreamWeaver (v6 through 8) shows the html as ..., and
> BBEdit's syntax checker (v6 through 8) passes this as correct for html 4.01
> Transitional and xhtml 1.0 Transitional. In fact this code works in all
> browsers I've t
Most of my html lists need to have a blank line between line items. DreamWeaver
(v6 through 8) shows the html as ..., and BBEdit's syntax
checker (v6 through 8) passes this as correct for html 4.01 Transitional and
xhtml 1.0 Transitional. In fact this code works in all browsers I've tried
excep
> No list tags; they'd be used for styling lists. ;)
>
> Try , which can be nested; , but use a inside it
> and style that instead; and . I get better styling mileage using
> before or after the form control than wrapping it around the
> control. Floats are definitely useful if you want to avoid
On 9/22/05, Zoe M. Gillenwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yazmin,
>
> It's probably a rounding error. Can you send the URL of the page that
> has a similar problem?
>
> Zoe
>
Sure. Here it is:
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/tabs.htm
Thanks!
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Contractor - Internet Developm
No list tags; they'd be used for styling lists. ;)
Try , which can be nested; , but use a inside it
and style that instead; and . I get better styling mileage using
before or after the form control than wrapping it around the
control. Floats are definitely useful if you want to avoid adding addi
* Alan Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-22 16:36]:
> A newbie question on styling forms.
>
> In the olden days, I would have put them in a table, labels on
> the left, elements on the right.
>
> These days I want to do it the CSS way.
>
> A structure question...
>
>
> I have a decent level of understanding of how style sheets work, but I
> would like to get to the point where I can design something along the
> lines of css zen garden. By that I mean that I would like to have a deep
> enough understanding of both xhtml and css so that I could design a web
> pag
A newbie question on styling forms.
In the olden days, I would have put them in a table, labels on
the left, elements on the right.
These days I want to do it the CSS way.
A structure question...
What elements do I use to markup structure? DL/DT/DD? UL/LI?
(Not
Yazmin Media wrote:
Well, this has turned out to still be an issue (on another site), so if
anyone had any suggestions they would be appreciated!
Thanks!
On 9/21/05, Yazmin Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been playing with the following file:
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/tabs.h
Julie Davis wrote:
-Original Message-
My page looks perfect in Firefox v.1, Navigator v.6-8, Safari v.2, and
Mozilla v.1.7 but the alignment of the main content portion of my page
is really wild.
http://www.clarkson.edu/depts/newweb/clarkson_experience/index.html
"CJ Larson" <[EM
BEAUCHAMP, MICHAEL J. wrote:
Hi,
I have a decent level of understanding of how style sheets work, but I
would like to get to the point where I can design something along the
lines of css zen garden. By that I mean that I would like to have a deep
enough understanding of both xhtml and css so
I don't know what snarky means, but thanks for the tip. :)
Michael Beauchamp
IT Developer 1
Amica Mutual Insurance Company
25 Amica Way
Lincoln, RI 02865-1155
1-800-992-6422 ext. 23224
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-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, Septe
Hello,
Maybe Alex wasn't quite clear enough earlier. Allow me to
reiterate what he said, only with fewer words and all in capitals:
THIS THREAD IS OVER.
Thank you.
(Why? See the "Holy Wars" section of
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=PostingGuidelines -- something
to which A
Not to be too snarky, but how about the Zen Garden book. "the Zen of CSS
design" by Dave Shea and Molly Holzschlag published by New Riders.
I have my copy, but have yet had the chance to read it, so I can only comment
that it exists and had decent review on Amazon.
--
Ian Skinner
Mark Mckee wrote:
I have to say I support:-
*firefox windows and linux
*mozilla windows and linux
*opera windows and linux
*Safari
*Netscape if possible
I definately no longer support:-
*IE in all its forms --- i am sick and tired of having to change my
designs to suit IE, tired of having to
Hi,
I have a decent level of understanding of how style sheets work, but I
would like to get to the point where I can design something along the
lines of css zen garden. By that I mean that I would like to have a deep
enough understanding of both xhtml and css so that I could design a web
page
Well, this has turned out to still be an issue (on another site), so if
anyone had any suggestions they would be appreciated!
Thanks!
On 9/21/05, Yazmin Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been playing with the following file:
>
> http://yazminmedia.com/playground/tabs.htm
>
> The problem I
On 9/22/05, Ben Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's difficult to tell what's going on, since you have many items on
> the page (images?) behind some password protection, and a large
> number of javascript errors stemming from DOCTYPE tags in your JS
> files. In addition, the XHTML does not v
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:09:34 -0400, Guy K. Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Could someone out there on a Mac let me know whether
http://covinahigh68.com/testing.htm
looks OK? "Stretchable" banner at top fades from white to red, with a
red colt in the left end, a title in silver, and a
Martin Petrov wrote:
I guess my question's been asked many times. I'm wondering if anybody
knows how to remove the border that Internet Explorer shows when
using a background image with the hr element.
Martin,
FWIW, I do not remember where I got this stuff.
And have no idea if all this co
David Laakso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 9:17
AM -0800 wrote:
>Felix Miata wrote:
>
>>Juanita wrote:
>>
>>
>She's looking and working much, much better now, Juanita.
>
>
>>It's wonderful to see my text size preference there. :-)
>The problem is,
>>your 699px wide #wrapp
Could someone out there on a Mac let me know whether
http://covinahigh68.com/testing.htm
looks OK? "Stretchable" banner at top fades from white to red, with a
red colt in the left end, a title in silver, and a white colt in the
right end. Narrowing the window should cause the title to di
I have to say I support:-
*firefox windows and linux
*mozilla windows and linux
*opera windows and linux
*Safari
*Netscape if possible
I definately no longer support:-
*IE in all its forms --- i am sick and tired of having to change my
designs to suit IE, tired of having to hack my code so it
This question has probably been asked before, but it's still
interesting if people's opinions change over time.
[ this post was inspired by the CSS Theory & Practice thread ;) ]
OK, mea culpa.
I thought I'd go easy and not get all stroppy about all the
off-topicness on [css-d] today, but en
I support:
* Internet Explorer 5.0+
* Firefox
* Mozilla
* Safari
* Netscape 6.0+
* Opera 7+ (6+ if I can)
For older and other browsers, I just try to make sure the site is usable
and I don't concern myself much with the look and feel of things.
--
Best regards,
Michael Wilson
___
For my projects I support and test in
* Internet Explorer 5.5/6.0
* Firefox > 1.0
* Mozilla Suite
* Safari 1/2
* Netscape 6.0 - 8.0
* Lynx
* Links
Browsers I explicitly don't support are:
* Netscape 4 or older
* Internet Explorer 5 on Mac
This question has probably b
On 9/21/05, Yazmin Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have the following files:
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/test.htm
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/description.css
http://yazminmedia.com/playground/metal2.css
In the description.css file, if I float the .panel class, it forces
IE/M
ibn Ezra wrote:
Howdy!
It's obvious that CSS based design is the better choice for where I
want to take my site & page designs, but there are some basic questions
about CSS theory v. practise that I wish I understood more thoroughly.
KISS Theory ('keep it simple...') is telling me that I s
> -Original Message-
> From: Oliver Hodgson
>
> This is because Internet Explorer cannot resize text whose
> size is set in pixels, but can size text set in other
> measurement details.
Huh? Read that as "other units of measurement". I'm up to my eyeballs in
decongestant, so thinking i
FireFox gives the user the ability to resize text regardless of what the
designer specified as units in their CSS code. IE, on the other hand,
doesn't resize the text if the CSS specifies the font in px/pt, which is
what the default template for zengarden does:
body { font: 9pt/17pt georgia; }
Thank you all for your help.
Next time, I will start a new thread.
Cheers,
John
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> -Original Message-
> From: Guchemand
> Subject: Re: [css-d] Designing without tables
>
> In IE6 the text on this page (http://www.csszengarden.com) doesn't
> change even when I select Text Size->Largest. On the other
> hand when I
> do the same thing on another page (eg., www.ebay.com)
While not completely on-topic -- be careful of using red on green or vice
versa. The Red/Green color combination is the most standard one that fails
for color-blind users. For them it will closely resemble gray on gray. In
other words, unusable.
A neat little free tool called "Colour Contrast Anal
Practice good. Theory bad. On this list in any case.
So, when you've figured out what direction you want to take, come
back and fire away with practical questions.
In the meantime, this article of Eric's should get you started:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoi
> Yet there also are the practical issue of browser defaults which pull
> in the opposite direction. One might make assumptions about how the
> browser will handle the page background-color, font-size & line-
> height, or margin & padding but there is certainly no guarantee that
> all browsers have
> Yet there also are the practical issue of browser defaults
> which pull
> in the opposite direction. One might make assumptions about how the
> browser will handle the page background-color, font-size & line-
> height, or margin & padding but there is certainly no guarantee that
> all br
Hello all,
It is a pleasure to be a newcomer to this group. It appears to be a
great (live) resource for web designers/developers, and I am so glad
that I found out about this. Well, nice to meet you.
OK, on with my question.
In IE6 the text on this page (http://www.csszengarden.com) doesn't
Thursday, September 22, 2005, 3:32:28 AM, Martin Petrov wrote:
> knows how to remove the border that Internet Explorer shows when
> using a background image with the hr element.
Styling HR is pretty much hopeless cross-browser. Put a DIV around it,
position the HR offscreen (it may have use to s
Howdy!
It's obvious that CSS based design is the better choice for where I
want to take my site & page designs, but there are some basic
questions about CSS theory v. practise that I wish I understood more
thoroughly. KISS Theory ('keep it simple...') is telling me that I
should keep my ru
At this site:
http://dev.ironworkers.org
there is a big gap in the middle of the left sidebar - it is there
because the nav2 div ends prematurely ... to remedy that I've added a
background image to #sitecontainer - but i've done something wrong
because the image isn't showing up.
Any though
On 9/22/05, Christian Heilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Move the files to another folder, this one keeps asking for login details.
>
> Therefore we cannot see your CSS and give you any advice.
>
> My guess is that you have set no width to the floated element.MSIE is
> picky with that.
Sor
Suggestions anyone?
On 9/21/05, Yazmin Media <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have the following files:
>
> http://yazminmedia.com/playground/test.htm
> http://yazminmedia.com/playground/description.css
> http://yazminmedia.com/playground/metal2.css
>
> In the description.css file, if I float the
This is relatively simple html css but I have been unable to check in
browsers other than IE6 (computer disaster among other things) so any help
in checking other browsers would be appreciated.
Sample Pages are generated by a publishing program so the css in embedded.
I started to make it exte
If web design was easy, companies wouldn't pay hundreds, even thousands of
dollars for great web sites. CSS is about learning to do it right. I can
assure you that once you learn the techniques of CSS, you'll find it's a lot
faster than designing with tables. You just have to keep working on it.
Su
Juanita wrote:
> If anyone has a moment and can check out my site (this is my first all CSS
> site) - it seems to be okay in IE6, FF, Opera & NN7, but I'm not sure
> about other browsers or Mac.
> I imported the stylesheet so as not to break in NN4, but haven't done a
> more basic stylesheet fo
Hello list!
I have worked over my layout and tested it with a trial account at
browsercam.
So I think (hope) that it should be alright in all major browsers.
There are two candidates, which make some problems.
One is Mac IE 5.2 (already had a version which worked, but can't get it
fixed) wher
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Thank you,
Chris McCreery
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Tim Zappe wrote:
How big is too big?
- What is a good rule of thumb for a CSS file size?
- How big should all of the images used by your stylesheet be? --
Total
- What is a good size for a typical web page? -- I remember hearing
60-80k, but that seems like we should be able to go
Greg Farries wrote:
I'm having some problems with a CSS styled list. I am using the css
list as a navigation menu, and I've picked the code up from Listamatic
[http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal26.htm].
You can see what I've got so far here:
http://www.vauxhallbaseball.com/index-
*hey guys*
thanks so much for your replies
*cristina*, have u found your css fails? mine never fall down.
ill read more in details your email, later on- promise :)
*dwain, **cristina, *look at this example, plz enlighten my eyes if im doing
something wrong.
http://www.shlomiasaf.com/CSS/nav/hori
shlomi asaf wrote:
I'm facing now the dilemma between working with tables or div's
im trying to figure what is the "golden path"
Hi
IMHO it shouldn't be a tables Vs divs argument - because both have their
place when correctly marked up. It should be a "tables for formatting"
Vs CSS argument
HI Guys
I'm facing now the dilemma between working with tables or div's
im trying to figure what is the "golden path"
Sometimes div's seems to be overkilling achievement when I'm working
with a layout of 3 standing columns and one should relate to his
brother height
Even though div's are so funct
I guess my question's been asked many times. I'm wondering if anybody
knows how to remove the border that Internet Explorer shows when
using a background image with the hr element.
Thanks
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