Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi Michael, Michael Geary wrote: > It's actually very easy, if you do *everything* in ems. The problems arise > when you mix ems with points or pixels. That will happen as soon as you put > ... Never use points for anything other than a print style sheet. When you say pixels, are you talking ab

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Felix Miata wrote: > If you like complications, by all means that should help. :-p Hehe, actually, I hate complications... Maybe I am just looking for an easy answer to building sites with EMs vs PX or %. :( Well constructed EM layouts are very impressive to me. > There's really no need to con

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Michael Geary
> > From: Gunlaug Sørtun > > Some round up and some round down, and some won't round at > > all. Some even dump all the em-decimals while they're at it. It even > > depends on how large an em-value you serve them. > From: Micky Hulse > Ah, wow... kinda sounds scary. It must be hard to perfect >

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi David, thanks for the quick response. :D David Laakso wrote: > I would only add that in all matters one has to make a decision about > who we are and what we hope to accomplish. It is good to experiment and > [...] > and is known to work cross-browser. Only you can decide what is best for

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Yes, it is. OTOH: any calculator will do :-) Hehe, makes sense. :: Blushes :: I guess I was mesmerized by the GUI > Some round up and some round down, and some won't round at all. Some > even dump all the em-decimals while they're at it. It even depends on > how large an

Re: [css-d] Fluid Drop Shadow box

2006-08-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vic Rauch wrote: > Here's what I'm looking for: Message box that conforms to the size of > the text, both width and height (text will be dynamic). Drop Shadow > will conform to the size of the message box, both width and height. > Right side of the Message box to be 2% or about 8 to 10 px from the

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi Michael! Thanks for the reply, Michael Geary wrote: > Alas, it's not that simple. You're looking at the conversion for a specific > font size, 16px. At any other font size, the conversion will be different. Ah, did not realize that. Thanks for pointing-out. > Font sizes, of course, vary with

Re: [css-d] Problem with stacking

2006-08-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
AP Bejmuk wrote: > http://denverclaims.com/CSS_Site/csstest.htm > The nav menu on the upper left uses sandbag divs to keep along the > "curve" of the mountains image. If the font size is changed, the > layout falls apart. Any suggestions? Those sandbag divs should have fixed height relative t

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Wow! Thanks for the great responses. I can't thank you all enough for your help. Very, very informative. Where do I send the check? :D Responding to your comments individually now. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/08/12 12:47 (GMT-0700) Micky Hulse apparently typed: > I just found this neat tool: > > Looks like a great tool to help one create an EM-based layout... If you like complications, by all means that should help. :-p There's really no need to consider px at all.

[css-d] Problem with stacking

2006-08-12 Thread AP Bejmuk
http://denverclaims.com/CSS_Site/csstest.htm I need some critiques with this test of rebuilding the denverclaims.com site using CSS instead of tables (www.denverclaims.com). I run across two problems: The nav menu on the upper left uses sandbag divs to keep along the "curve" of the mountains ima

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread David Laakso
Micky Hulse wrote: > Hi, > > I just found this neat tool: > > Looks like a great tool to help one create an EM-based layout... > [...] > Micky I think others have already answered your specific question. I would only add that in all matters one has to make a decision abo

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Micky Hulse wrote: > > > Looks like a great tool to help one create an EM-based layout... Yes, it is. OTOH: any calculator will do :-) > I have been wanting to make the move to EM's for layout, but I do not > see EM layouts being practical when it comes to layouts tha

Re: [css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Michael Geary
> From: Micky Hulse > > I just found this neat tool: > > > > Looks like a great tool to help one create an EM-based layout... > > I have been wanting to make the move to EM's for layout, but > I do not see EM layouts being practical when it comes to > layouts that ar

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Holly Bergevin wrote: >> To my recollection, we only tried having a background color, or a >> background image. Perhaps there is some other property that forces >> the issue with IE. > > Think these two articles have some suggestions... >

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Holly Bergevin
Georg wrote: >Think these two articles have some suggestions... > > Ah. Thank you Georg. Too bad John and I didn't know about/consult these resources at the time. Might have saved s

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Holly Bergevin wrote: > To my recollection, we only tried having a background color, or a > background image. Perhaps there is some other property that forces > the issue with IE. Think these two articles have some suggestions...

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Holly Bergevin
>Ingo Chao wrote: >> Hooly&John >I should not type while eating. It's > >Holly&John I don't know, perhaps Hooly is more appropriate? :-) When John and I first presented the idea that Ingo referenced [1], we were using a non-existant background image to trigger IE to show the full hover. We

[css-d] EM calculator: Precision conversion? Rounding concerns?

2006-08-12 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi, I just found this neat tool: Looks like a great tool to help one create an EM-based layout... I have been wanting to make the move to EM's for layout, but I do not see EM layouts being practical when it comes to layouts that are needing pixel precision (some cli

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: > Hooly&John > Sorry, I have not get back to work. I should not type while eating. It's Holly&John / I have to get ... Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Ian Piper wrote: > It does fix it, thanks very much. But what made you try that? Is this > a known fix for other problems? First I gave it a 5px green solid border to localize the links. Then I noticed that only this test border was clickable. So there had to be "something" to click on (even i

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Ian Piper
On 12 Aug 2006, at 5:58 pm, Ingo Chao wrote: > I am not sure. > > #partner_pic a { >... >background: url(not_a_real.jpg); > } > > seems to fix it. Other ideas? > It does fix it, thanks very much. But what made you try that? Is this a known fix for other problems? Ian. -- Dr Ian M

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2006-08-12 Thread richard oravec
to ANDREAS I deleted height:1% but it did not work I tried this and it was OK body {margin:0px;padding:0px; color: #000; background: #e2dfdc url("images/background_main.gif") 0 0 repeat; font-family: verdana, tahoma

[css-d] Element with padding inside of table cell overflows in Firefox

2006-08-12 Thread Brian Jamieson
Inside of a table cell I have a span with left padding. In Firefox, when the table width gets sized to its content - either by shrinking the viewport or constraining the table width - the text inside the span is rendered outside of the cell. This doesn't happen when I substitute margin for padding,

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread David Laakso
Ian Piper wrote: > Hi all, > > Yet another wierdness with IE under Windows. I have been making an > image map using the CSS techniques deescribed in Andy Budd's CSS > Mastery book. The result looks fine in Firefox under Mac OS X and > Windows and Safari under Mac OS X, but the hotspots (1-pix

Re: [css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Ingo Chao
Ian Piper wrote: > Yet another wierdness with IE under Windows. I have been making an > image map using the CSS techniques deescribed in Andy Budd's CSS > Mastery book. The result looks fine in Firefox under Mac OS X and > Windows and Safari under Mac OS X, but the hotspots (1-pixel solid >

[css-d] CSS-based image maps and IE6

2006-08-12 Thread Ian Piper
Hi all, Yet another wierdness with IE under Windows. I have been making an image map using the CSS techniques deescribed in Andy Budd's CSS Mastery book. The result looks fine in Firefox under Mac OS X and Windows and Safari under Mac OS X, but the hotspots (1-pixel solid red box on hoveri

[css-d] Hiding column contents overflow

2006-08-12 Thread Stéphane Mader
Hi all I'm new to the list and far from being a CSS guru. I'm trying to get a tabular layout where - all lines have the same height, - some columns have a fixed width, - one column has its width that shrinks when the browser window is resized and its overflowing contents is hidden. The google mai

[css-d] Fluid Drop Shadow box

2006-08-12 Thread Vic Rauch
Here's what I'm looking for: Message box that conforms to the size of the text, both width and height (text will be dynamic). Drop Shadow will conform to the size of the message box, both width and height. Right side of the Message box to be 2% or about 8 to 10 px from the right hand edge of the

Re: [css-d] Sliding door rounded corner boxes

2006-08-12 Thread Pete Home
Francky, Thanks for all your help (and Nick's), I've got a lot further than before, but for the life of me I cannot understand why certain things work in FF but not IE and visa versa. I know there are bugs, but it seems to make no sense. IE is now a real mess, but FF is a lot better! I've managed

Re: [css-d] Show more text using CSS

2006-08-12 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Stu answer this comment: If there is a need for this then I might be > persuaded to produce a 'more v2'. Maybe Stu will make them if there is a lot > of comment asking for this all CSS more v2. Or we have to wait for the demo > that Chris talk about in one of is reply for this topic. Read the wh