[css-d] gap in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-31 Thread Richard Grevers
http://www.electec.co.nz/courses2.mv How can I eliminate the gap between the border of .courseholder and the background of .ctop in Firefox and Opera? also, is there a way of stopping the bottom border of .courseholder from disappearing if either of the divs above is taller than minimum? --

Re: [css-d] Blowtorches at the ready...

2006-10-31 Thread Barney Carroll
Chris Ovenden wrote: http://olav.dk/articles/tables.html I'm not going to argue with that at all. It's completely true. Generally, there is wisdom in the pseudo-religious standards-compliance of CSS gurus, but I have always felt that the case against tables was exceptionally weak. Apart from

Re: [css-d] Alternating row colors in table?

2006-10-31 Thread Anneke Wiering
How to get alternating row colors in a table or a list? I know of solutions with Javascript but I am looking for something that would be done with CSS only, I don't want to have to have a class for the even rows (or odd). Now that we have CSS 2.1, with counter and content, does anyone have

Re: [css-d] Blowtorches at the ready...

2006-10-31 Thread Dave Goodchild
Have you ever used a screen reader to navigate a nested table page? I have, and the experience is nightmarish. Have you ever had to maintain the look and feel of a table-based site? I have, and the experience is nightmarish and a waste of time and money. Not to mention the fact that when you use

Re: [css-d] Blowtorches at the ready...

2006-10-31 Thread Chris Ovenden
I'm sorry - is it now passe to have the navigation after the content? I thought screen reader users (not to mention search engine spiders) hated wading though the navigation to get to the content? This certainly appeared to be the case last year when I was trying to get www.five.tv through level 2

Re: [css-d] Alternating row colors in table?

2006-10-31 Thread Barney Carroll
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Even CSS3 selectors can't test for this because you can't run calculations per se in CSS table tr:nth-child http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#nth-child-pseudo would work perfectly. Supported by Konqueror. That's absolutely fascinating. Is Konqueror the only

Re: [css-d] Alternating row colors in table?

2006-10-31 Thread Fred Janon
That's quite a trick! Simple, I didn't think of that. Thanks for the suggestion! --- Anneke Wiering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to get alternating row colors in a table or a list? I know of solutions with Javascript but I am looking for something that would be done with CSS only, I

Re: [css-d] Blowtorches at the ready...

2006-10-31 Thread Dave Goodchild
This is how I build sites: 1. Start by creating the xhtml structure, which forces me (and hopefully the client) to look at the structural and semantic organisation of the CONTENT. 2. Once I have that, I can then assign the relevant divs to each part of the layout, with names that identify the

[css-d] [ADMIN- OFF TOPIC] Re: Blowtorches at the ready...

2006-10-31 Thread Alex Robinson
You're right, of course. But as much as this string isn't about chunks of code per se I think it's extremely important to discuss these issues (I believe you do too?) which I have found to be taboo in the community - but I think this is the place to have it (admin correct me here)... If not, would

Re: [css-d] gap in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Grevers wrote: http://www.electec.co.nz/courses2.mv How can I eliminate the gap between the border of .courseholder and the background of .ctop in Firefox and Opera? First: it's 'collapsing margins'[1], which can be controlled in a number of ways. I suggest you add... .ctop

Re: [css-d] wide page: extending element background beyond right edge of window?

2006-10-31 Thread David Feldman
Thanks! I'm getting closer, and indeed display:table will do that trick in everything but IE. A follow-up question... IE6 does expand the container in that example-page, but if IE/win doesn't do that in an actual page, add... You're right, in my original example everything's fine in IE. I

Re: [css-d] images don't line up evenly

2006-10-31 Thread ~davidLaakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seems images don't line up evenly when used within a floating p tag and a regular p tag... - http://www.fatgraffix.com/testing/css-question/css-test.html Francis, it may be the margin/padding on the inline p. Try zeroing them out. Or don't use a p tag at all-- put

Re: [css-d] IE7 Pseudoclass/hasLayout Weirdness

2006-10-31 Thread Bruno Fassino
Steve Clason wrote: Although IE7 does support the :hover pseudoclass on elements other than a, making Suckerfish-type navigation work without JavaScript, you have to be careful to trigger hasLayout in both the element and the element pseudoclass, and you have to use two different triggers,

Re: [css-d] handheld css

2006-10-31 Thread Rob O'Rourke
I find the best way to get your site looking nice on a mobile is to separate your generic element styles into a global css file with absolutely no reference to layout. The elements will look like they do on the main website but will be linearised (if that makes sense). This way you can serve

[css-d] handheld css

2006-10-31 Thread Justin Thorp
Hey gang, I just recently starting doing a lot of research on mobile web design. I have a little experience with writing Handheld CSS files. Would people mind sharing their experiences? Have they found handheld css useful? Is it just not implemented enough among phones for it to be worth

Re: [css-d] handheld css

2006-10-31 Thread Dave Goodchild
I think it will increase in usage as levels of support grow. I used to code wml pages for mobiles, but I think that is on the downer. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7

Re: [css-d] images don't line up evenly

2006-10-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thx - i realized that was the solution too... still, i wonder why the floated p has 'different' padding + margin than the non-floated p, as the only difference between the p's is the 'float: right' ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seems images don't line up evenly when used within a floating p tag

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN- OFF TOPIC] Re: Blowtorches at the ready...

2006-10-31 Thread Chris Ovenden
On 10/31/06, Alex Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My blowtorch is now ready and primed to fry to a frazzle anyone who cares to prolong this torture... I didn't mean to start a debate *HERE*; my intention was for us all (or those who cared to) to canter over to that guy's blog

[css-d] Float problem (bug?) only in Opera and IE

2006-10-31 Thread Daryl Spitzer
You'll see in http://www.spitzer.us/daryl/Daryl_Spitzer_resume.html that in Opera (9.0.2) and IE (6.0) that the first date and city under Experience and the word ongoing under Education float up too high. This is strange, because they're the same class as the ones below, which are fine. And this

[css-d] Can't figure this out - Center a div with variable width

2006-10-31 Thread Mark Wheeler
Hi all, Is this even possible? (I'm sure it is, but I still feel pretty new to css) - Can you have a div (content) centered inside another div (container) BUT, the content div's width may be different because of content (thus you can't set the width) AND the div width must collapse around

[css-d] Horizontal Dropdown Menu Problem IE6

2006-10-31 Thread Taryn Regish
Hi all, I am currently in the process of converting a complex table based layout to purely css styled page. I am running into a problem with the horizontal menu in IE6. I have been trying to figure out why when I hover over the flyout, the size of the flyout changes -- it becomes smaller. The