Re: [css-d] ASP.NET - Tableless Forms

2009-02-17 Thread Steve Axthelm
On 2009-02-16 Iain Wilson wrote: >Hi All > >New to this CSS world but loving it. > >I have seen many examples of tableless forms such as that at Dynamic Drive - >CSS Library [snip] >However, I cannot find anything that works with ASP.NET components such > >, etc. > >Is it possible to do the same

Re: [css-d] New to List First question.

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:58:25 -0800 Came this utterance fomulated by Ryan Little @ Gusto to my mailbox: > > > > Not really sure how relevant browser statistic are regarding the > > practical application of CSS. Nevertheless, there was a very long > > thread > > last month, on somewhat related mat

Re: [css-d] Backwards Compatible CSS

2009-02-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
cFA wrote: > So let's say I take the route as noted above and I fix the bug by > using this html: > > div id = eventsModule > > and the css > > #eventsModule - margin bottom 5px > > This change has broken backwards compatibility right? From what you wrote I can't see what backwards compatib

Re: [css-d] Tabbed Panels and Accordions being forced down by Internet Explorer

2009-02-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
RHYAN TAYLOR wrote: > The site is *http://www.freestyle-la.net* Everything is great until > you use Internet Explorer 6 or 7. Delete the 'clear: both;' on .TabbedPanels, as IE7 and older don't support the CSS that keeps that 'clear' from clearing the sidebar. > Notes: > > I changed from 'Tra

Re: [css-d] Font sizing

2009-02-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/17 19:45 (GMT-0600) Brian Funk composed: > With regard to > respecting users settings it seems more important to create in a way > that the text /can/ be scalable to let them do what they want with it - > hopefully without breaking your page design. Some ways of sizing prevent > thi

Re: [css-d] Font sizing

2009-02-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/17 21:59 (GMT-0500) Ron Koster composed: > the font sizes/proportions/percentages that David mentioned earlier... > At 10:02 AM 2/13/2009 -0800, David Hucklesby wrote: >>I find that these percentages work best >>cross-browser: 69%, 75%, 82%, 94% ... with a base font-size of 100%. > .

Re: [css-d] Font sizing [was: Font-color issue]

2009-02-17 Thread Ron Koster
At 07:45 PM 2/17/2009 -0600, Brian Funk wrote: >The 100% is needed as a base to avoid problems in certain browsers - >others can explain this in detail far better than I. With regard to >respecting users settings it seems more important to create in a way >that the text /can/ be scalable to let

[css-d] Backwards Compatible CSS

2009-02-17 Thread cFA
Hi all, I'm trying to get some strategy nailed down so that I can more effectively fix bugs where I work. A lot of what we do needs to be backwards compatible. I've got access to the html and sometimes I've updated (changed) classes or removed classes from existing markup in order to fix bugs. Pe

Re: [css-d] Font sizing [was: Font-color issue]

2009-02-17 Thread Brian Funk
Ron Koster wrote: > At 10:02 AM 2/13/2009 -0800, David Hucklesby wrote: >> I find that these percentages work best >> cross-browser: 69%, 75%, 82%, 94% ... with a base font-size of 100%. > Firstly, from past threads, my understanding is that one shouldn't be > going any smaller than 100% -- or at

[css-d] Tabbed Panels and Accordions being forced down by Internet Explorer

2009-02-17 Thread RHYAN TAYLOR
I'm a beginner to CSS. So be gentle. I designed a site for a good friend and have published it to the web. The site is *http://www.freestyle-la.net* Everything is great until you use Internet Explorer 6 or 7. Some pages, pages with Spry elements, like tabbed panels and accordions, are being forc

Re: [css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-17 Thread Ron Koster
At 10:02 AM 2/13/2009 -0800, David Hucklesby wrote: >I find that these percentages work best >cross-browser: 69%, 75%, 82%, 94% ... with a base font-size of 100%. Interesting. As an avid typophile -- and someone who still, admittedly, has a lot to learn about CSS -- I've been trying to follow an

Re: [css-d] Tabbed Nav Issues

2009-02-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/17 17:13 (GMT-0600) RePost composed: > Felix Miata wrote: >> To amplify David's original implication and subsequent response, use of px >> for sizing text is an affirmative design choice that whatever text sizes are >> acceptable to or preferred by the design's visitors are utterly irr

Re: [css-d] Tabbed Nav Issues

2009-02-17 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* RePost wrote: >> A corollary is px for setting line height. >> http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/line-height-inherit.html demonstrates how it can be >> a problem. >> >Felix, I don't quite get this "Use only for line-height" >business proposed at the link you provided. > >If your "number" is neither p

Re: [css-d] Tabbed Nav Issues

2009-02-17 Thread RePost
Felix Miata wrote: > To amplify David's original implication and subsequent response, use of px > for sizing text is an affirmative design choice that whatever text sizes are > acceptable to or preferred by the design's visitors are utterly irrelevant. > Whatever size in px seems most appropriate t

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread David Laakso
Christopher R wrote: > I appreciate the help David very much, I would just like to know with what I > have designed how I could fix that cut off that happens with IE6? > > > >>> www.thecreativesheep.ca/page_error/imagepage3b.html >>> We know what you want. And over many moons, many fol

Re: [css-d] ASP.NET - Tableless Forms

2009-02-17 Thread Jerod Venema
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bill Brown wrote: > christi...@netscape.net wrote: > > It seems to be a little-known fact that the W3C actually says that > > tables can be used to lay out (actually it says "present") forms. > > More info here: http://developer.cmzmedia.com/?p=71 > > Yes, tab

Re: [css-d] ASP.NET - Tableless Forms

2009-02-17 Thread Bill Brown
christi...@netscape.net wrote: > It seems to be a little-known fact that the W3C actually says that > tables can be used to lay out (actually it says "present") forms. > More info here: http://developer.cmzmedia.com/?p=71 > Yes, tables were not intended to lay out a whole web page but they do

Re: [css-d] IE6 bumps the P down below one (but not other) floated divs

2009-02-17 Thread Kir Talmage
Thank you! This was exactly the thing -- I thought I'd done this and obviously hadn't. Sorry my thanks are so late; I really appreciate your help. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Kir Talmage wrote: > >> All is well in most current browsers, but IE6 is pushing the paragr

Re: [css-d] ASP.NET - Tableless Forms

2009-02-17 Thread christianz
It seems to be a little-known fact that the W3C actually says that tables can be used to lay out (actually it says "present") forms. More info here: http://developer.cmzmedia.com/?p=71 Yes, tables were not intended to lay out a whole web page but they do have legitimate uses. There's no need to

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread David Laakso
Christopher R wrote: > www.thecreativesheep.ca/page_error/imagepage3b.html > > I'm having a problem with an element on this page the "class.myface" when > compared in IE7/FF/etc it looks fine > but when you view it in IE6 the "class.myface" block element is scaled > bigger, I've been trying to fi

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread Christopher R
I appreciate the help David very much, I would just like to know with what I have designed how I could fix that cut off that happens with IE6? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM "David Laakso" wrote: >Christopher R wrote: > > www.thecreativesheep.ca/page_error/imagepage3b.html > > > > I'm havin

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread Martyn Merrett
Hi Jason, You can reply to the person and/or the list. I prefer to copy the list in "reply to all" so that everyone else knows the answer plus it'll become a common knowledge pool. Ta, ~Mx http://www.mxdx.co.uk 2009/2/17 Jason Newington : > Hi there, > > New to the list so not sure whether I

Re: [css-d] New to List First question.

2009-02-17 Thread Tim Arnold
Ryan, Be sure you are looking at the browser stats in the wider context of the site's purpose and audience reach. For my personal sites, I abandoned IE6 a year ago, but I get very few visitors. 20% of visitors to my personal site only account for a couple a day. On sites I build for clients who

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread Jason Newington
Hi there, New to the list so not sure whether I should reply to the list or to the person individually, would be grateful if someone could tell me :) Just spent a little bit of time looking at your problem and it's being caused by the tag sitting inside .mayface. If you move the tag outside o

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread Christopher R
Yeah I see it's only caused in IE6, you can't even horizontal scroll to get it to center, I'm not to sure. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM "Martyn Merrett" wrote: >Possibly something to do with the Box model bug in IE6? > You are right it does happen here too. > > One warning on this page -

Re: [css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread Martyn Merrett
Possibly something to do with the Box model bug in IE6? You are right it does happen here too. One warning on this page - I can see a lot of absolute positioning. Try resizing your browser (say to 800x600) and you'll notice the content doesn't move and you can only see half the page! ~Mx http://w

[css-d] IE6 Class block larger

2009-02-17 Thread Christopher R
www.thecreativesheep.ca/page_error/imagepage3b.html I'm having a problem with an element on this page the "class.myface" when compared in IE7/FF/etc it looks fine but when you view it in IE6 the "class.myface" block element is scaled bigger, I've been trying to figure this out for a day or two I

Re: [css-d] Style a select tag (the arrow part)

2009-02-17 Thread Stephen Tang
Hi Martyn, I saw that in my internet searches, but it doesn't work in IE6, and unfortunately, the projects I am working on all still use IE6. I don't object to using Javascript and CSS to style the tag, but I wanted to see if I missed anything about a CSS-only solution. So far, I have found no ev

Re: [css-d] New to List First question.

2009-02-17 Thread Nancy Johnson
A side note to IE6. I just bought my dad a brand new Dell mini computer and guess what, it came with IE6 installed! I was a bit perturbed at this... Nancy On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ryan Little @ Gusto wrote: >> >> Not really sure how relevant browser statistic are regarding the >> practi

Re: [css-d] Style a select tag (the arrow part)

2009-02-17 Thread Virgilio Quilario
> I found this CSS only hack to allow a pretty select menu with no JavaScript. > http://pennypacker.net/articles/css_tricks_select_menu > It works okay in FF3 but falls back to the default in IE6. > yeah works okay in FF3 but you can't see the item you select. i'm sure there's a way to do it in cs

Re: [css-d] ASP.NET - Tableless Forms

2009-02-17 Thread Virgilio Quilario
> New to this CSS world but loving it. > > I have seen many examples of tableless forms such as that at Dynamic Drive - > CSS Library > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/css-tableless-form/P10/ > > > However, I cannot find anything that works with ASP.NET components such > > , et

Re: [css-d] Style a select tag (the arrow part)

2009-02-17 Thread Martyn Merrett
Hi Steve, I found this CSS only hack to allow a pretty select menu with no JavaScript. http://pennypacker.net/articles/css_tricks_select_menu It works okay in FF3 but falls back to the default in IE6. Is an input value for a form? ~Mx http://www.mxdx.co.uk 2009/2/17 Stephen Tang : > Blake, >