Re: [css-d] ::first-word pseudo-element (and other pseudo-ideas)

2010-12-11 Thread Freelance Traveller
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:24:52 -0800, Rick Gordon wrote: >Understandably, sensitivities concerning ethnocentricity can be >triggered within such a discussion, but how about: >1) A definition which will work among the greatest majority of >linguistic cases -- languages that have a commonly accept

Re: [css-d] ::first-word pseudo-element (and other pseudo-ideas)

2010-12-11 Thread Rick Gordon
Understandably, sensitivities concerning ethnocentricity can be triggered within such a discussion, but how about: 1) A definition which will work among the greatest majority of linguistic cases -- languages that have a commonly accepted range of word delimiters (which I think might include all

[css-d] ::first-word pseudo-element (and other pseudo-ideas)

2010-12-11 Thread Gabriele Romanato
I'm following an interesting discussion on www-style about new ideas for new pseudo-elements in CSS3. Latest entries concern the ::first- word pseudo-element. I quote the most relevant ones: ---

Re: [css-d] Web development without Internet Explorer

2010-12-11 Thread John D
> From: da...@dmcentral.net > So IMHO until MS makes IE 100% compliant or ships with alternative browswers > pre-instaled, it's a losing battle. > Things will definitely change next year when Google comes out with its own operating system

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread David Laakso
On 12/11/10 1:44 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I believe what the OP is after is "inline-block": -- Thierry After two months of guessing at what the OP is after today I no longer care. ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/12/11 17:20 (GMT+0530) Chetan Crasta composed: Btw, the CSS spec takes into account the fact that monitors' pixel-densities differ. This is why, according to the spec, px is a relative length unit. The latest spec draft defines 1px as equal to 0.75pt, contorting the px into a physical

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
>> Not using tables for layout is not a "religious matter". It has been >> about a decade since tables for layout have been deprecated. See >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tableless_web_design > > While true, that's not stopped their use, or promotion: > http://developer.apple.com/internet/webconte

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/12/11 22:24 (GMT+0530) Chetan Crasta composed: Not using tables for layout is not a "religious matter". It has been about a decade since tables for layout have been deprecated. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tableless_web_design While true, that's not stopped their use, or promotion:

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> Chetan Crasta wrote: > > > I have made an example of the design here: > > http://roughtech.com/t/testali.html > > > > It uses CSS only. I believe what the OP is after is "inline-block": As a site note, "table-cell" wo

Re: [css-d] Web development without Internet Explorer

2010-12-11 Thread G.Sørtun
On 11.12.2010 15:49, David Laakso wrote: For those who work for an employer, or have a client, who is also progressive but require for whatever reasons to still hit Internet Explorer might a viable alternative be to feed Redmond desktop content in much the same manner as one might for mobile

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
@Jukka: Like I mentioned in my earlier email, I thoroughly tested the solution. I doubt there would be any problems integrating it with any kind of layout. Take a closer look at the solution, there is only one px declaration, for font size (in the container div). This was used for convenience only,

Re: [css-d] Problem with dropdowns

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
The ">" (eg ul>li ) is the symbol for child selector. It only selects child elements, not grand-child, great grand-child etc. Whereas the simple space eg( ul li ), called the descendant selector, selects all descendant elements -- grand-child, great grand-child etc. ~Chetan On Sat, Dec 11, 2010

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Chetan Crasta wrote: I have made an example of the design here: http://roughtech.com/t/testali.html It uses CSS only. It seems to use the positioning technique I outlined and demonstrated, but it contains lots of features quite independent of the issue at hand, such as odd line heights. In

Re: [css-d] Problem with dropdowns

2010-12-11 Thread Brian Jones
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote: > Made a number of changes to the CSS. You can see the fixed page here: > http://roughtech.com/t/dropdown.html > > The changes I made to the CSS can be seen here: > http://roughtech.com/t/dropdown_files/dropdown.css > I have commented the chang

Re: [css-d] Web development without Internet Explorer

2010-12-11 Thread David Laakso
On 12/11/10 8:27 AM, Gabriele Romanato wrote: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/12/web-development-without-internet.html the firm I work for has already embraced my ideals. hope many more will join us. It is all good:-) . For those who work for an employer, or have a client, who is a

Re: [css-d] Web development without Internet Explorer

2010-12-11 Thread David McGlone
On Saturday, December 11, 2010 08:27:37 am Gabriele Romanato wrote: > Hi. > I'm just seeking volunteers for a radical change in how we think > coding in general. > I respect the backward-compatibilty point of view but, nonetheless, I > can't say it's Gospel. > > hope this would be useful for a sti

[css-d] Web development without Internet Explorer

2010-12-11 Thread Gabriele Romanato
Hi. I'm just seeking volunteers for a radical change in how we think coding in general. I respect the backward-compatibilty point of view but, nonetheless, I can't say it's Gospel. hope this would be useful for a stimulating discussion: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/12/web-development-w

Re: [css-d] menu test

2010-12-11 Thread David Laakso
On 12/11/10 6:45 AM, Erik Visser wrote: Please give me your remarks. And how this menu behaves in the different browsers and/or pplatforms you use. Thanks, Erik http://beta.ottermeerhoeve.nl/index.php Always a pleasure to land on a page with primary content set at default:-) . O.K.

Re: [css-d] menu test

2010-12-11 Thread Erik Visser
David Laakso schreef op 12/11/10 12:49 PM: On 12/11/10 6:45 AM, Erik Visser wrote: Please give me your remarks. And how this menu behaves in the different browsers and/or pplatforms you use. Thanks, Erik uri, Erik? eeehhh.. http://beta.ottermeerhoeve.nl/index.php __

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
> Kidding aside, one man's 1920 (16" laptop; 142 DPI) could easily be narrower > than another's 1280 (19" desktop; 86 DPI). Designers really ought to quit > thinking in px. Px sizes bear no predictable correlation to the physical > world, and thus to legibility or appropriate line lengths. Agreed.

Re: [css-d] menu test

2010-12-11 Thread David Laakso
On 12/11/10 6:45 AM, Erik Visser wrote: Please give me your remarks. And how this menu behaves in the different browsers and/or pplatforms you use. Thanks, Erik uri, Erik? -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ ___

[css-d] menu test

2010-12-11 Thread Erik Visser
A client wants elliptical menu buttons with Comic Sans font, Please give me your remarks. And how this menu behaves in the different browsers and/or pplatforms you use. Thanks, Erik __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/12/11 16:54 (GMT+0530) Chetan Crasta composed: Yeah, people with monitors wider than 1024 shouldn't be maximizing their browsers. Kidding :) Kidding aside, one man's 1920 (16" laptop; 142 DPI) could easily be narrower than another's 1280 (19" desktop; 86 DPI). Designers really ough

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
> That's nice I guess:-) . Have you considered that some of us are on a > monitor wider than 1024? Yeah, people with monitors wider than 1024 shouldn't be maximizing their browsers. Kidding :) Then one should add a max-width of around 40em. Or one can just remove the max-width and give div#headin

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread David Laakso
On 12/11/10 5:58 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote: None taken :) Thanks for pointing that out. I have now given the div#headingsanddescription a min-width of 37em which should prevent overlapping at large font sizes. ~Chetan http://roughtech.com/t/testali.html That's nice I guess:-) . Have you co

Re: [css-d] Problem with dropdowns

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
Found some more things that needed fixing. Fixed them now. ~Chetan On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Chetan Crasta wrote: > Made a number of changes to the CSS. You can see the fixed page here: > http://roughtech.com/t/dropdown.html > > The changes I made to the CSS can be seen here: > http://rou

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
None taken :) Thanks for pointing that out. I have now given the div#headingsanddescription a min-width of 37em which should prevent overlapping at large font sizes. ~Chetan On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:05 PM, David Laakso wrote: > On 12/11/10 5:10 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote: >> >> I have made an exa

Re: [css-d] Problem with dropdowns

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
Made a number of changes to the CSS. You can see the fixed page here: http://roughtech.com/t/dropdown.html The changes I made to the CSS can be seen here: http://roughtech.com/t/dropdown_files/dropdown.css I have commented the changes as "my change". ~Chetan On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Bri

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread David Laakso
On 12/11/10 5:10 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote: I have made an example of the design here: http://roughtech.com/t/testali.html ~Chetan No offense intended:-) but beware the cross-over with font-scaling. Best, ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

Re: [css-d] Make text bottom-align?

2010-12-11 Thread Chetan Crasta
I have made an example of the design here: http://roughtech.com/t/testali.html It uses CSS only. It works in all modern browsers and IE6 and IE7. I have tested it with different fonts and font sizes. Using a table would not be appropriate. Tables are not for layout. ~Chetan _