Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
I support it because I have to. If a client wants us to support it or stats indicate it should, then we do. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Eric wrote: > I do have a here. With IE7 having a 0.6% share right nowwhy bother with > it at all? Many of the big name pros in the Web Design/Dev indus

Re: [css-d] Site check please IE9/10

2013-09-04 Thread Eric
Albert, I'm not seeing your problem. Have your fixed it? > On September 3, 2013 at 8:20 AM Albert van der Veen > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm working on a new site and just found out it looks (and works, as you > can't even click any link) awful in IE8/9 and good in IE10. Can anyone > see whethe

Re: [css-d] Site check please IE9/10

2013-09-04 Thread Eric
David, I really don't see how the three HTML errors would case his problem. And, you might want to check the CSS before running a validation. He's using CSS3 that validation does not appear to have been run under CSS3 but rather CSS2.1 making the error irrelevant. And, even if they were the only t

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Eric
I do have a here. With IE7 having a 0.6% share right nowwhy bother with it at all? Many of the big name pros in the Web Design/Dev industry no long check for UA versions. Most don't even support the ancient UAs at all. Just wondering. > On September 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM Tom Livingston wrote:

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
Thanks for all the help everyone. I'll file that one under 'weird'. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: > The wrapper width was the issue. Thanks for that. > > For some reason, in my 7, that wasnt causing an issue, but in 10CM it > was. Removing it, however, didnt cause any bad

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
The wrapper width was the issue. Thanks for that. For some reason, in my 7, that wasnt causing an issue, but in 10CM it was. Removing it, however, didnt cause any bad things to happen either. Go figure. Ah, IE On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Chris Rockwell wrote: > I'm having trouble unders

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Rockwell
I'm having trouble understanding why the width of wrapper is explicitly set to anything other than 100% anyways. as your main wrapper (#page, I believe) has a pixel width set. I would first look at something that doesn't have issues, namely #gHcontainer and #llb-footer, both are not styled by the

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Rockwell
I see ".ie7 .wrapper {width: 940px}" On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > >> Apologies. I was going for philosophical help as opposed to digging > >> into the code, but here it is: > >> > >> http://everywhere.llbean.com/ > > > > OK, I have viewed

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
Terrific! This just keeps getting better! LOL. I have multiple VMs running XP, Vista and 8. One XP is 7, one is 8. That 7 looks fine, while my 10 VM in compatibility mode breaks... On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Chris Rockwell wrote: > It renders the same for me using IE7 or IE10CM > > > On Wed

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Rockwell
It renders the same for me using IE7 or IE10CM On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Chris Rockwell > wrote: > > And it looks like "box-sizing: border-box" is the ultimate culprit, maybe > > IE7 doesn't handle it well?? Was the box-sizing prope

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
FYI, I know about the validation errors, however they occur in content injected into my page that I have no control over. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Philip Taylor wrote: >> >> >> Tom Livingston wrote: >> >>> Can anyone point me in the

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
> Tom Livingston wrote: > >> Apologies. I was going for philosophical help as opposed to digging >> into the code, but here it is: >> >> http://everywhere.llbean.com/ > > OK, I have viewed it in IE9 and IE10 and have not spotted any obvious > problems in the latter; what problems should I expect to

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > >> Can anyone point me in the right direction for trouble shooting this? > > As always, and with apologies for Raising My Voice : Post a URL ! > Philip Taylor Apologies. I was going for philosophical help as oppos

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Philip Taylor
Tom Livingston wrote: > Turn on IE10 Compatibility Mode in the F12 tools in 10. Sidebar drops > down below the main column for me... Interesting. I had already added Llbean.Com to my list of "View in compatibility mode" sites, but only by explicitly requesting compatibility view using the mech

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Chris Rockwell wrote: > And it looks like "box-sizing: border-box" is the ultimate culprit, maybe > IE7 doesn't handle it well?? Was the box-sizing property added in later > maybe? > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Chris Rockwell > wrote: >> >> I see ".ie7 .wra

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Rockwell
And it looks like "box-sizing: border-box" is the ultimate culprit, maybe IE7 doesn't handle it well?? Was the box-sizing property added in later maybe? On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Chris Rockwell wrote: > I see ".ie7 .wrapper {width: 940px}" > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Tom Livingst

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Philip Taylor
Tom Livingston wrote: > Apologies. I was going for philosophical help as opposed to digging > into the code, but here it is: > > http://everywhere.llbean.com/ OK, I have viewed it in IE9 and IE10 and have not spotted any obvious problems in the latter; what problems should I expect to encounte

Re: [css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Philip Taylor
Tom Livingston wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction for trouble shooting this? As always, and with apologies for Raising My Voice : Post a URL ! Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://

[css-d] IE10 Compatibility mode

2013-09-04 Thread Tom Livingston
List, I have a request to fix some layout issues in IE10 Compatibility Mode. Everything I've googled says IE10 CM should render like IE7. When I view my page in IE10 CM, it breaks. When I view it in IE7, it's fine. Can anyone point me in the right direction for trouble shooting this? -- Tom Li