Re: [css-d] Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too

2013-10-09 Thread David Hucklesby
On 10/8/13 3:40 PM, Theresa Jennings wrote: http://girlscoutssangorgonio.org The client just informed me that the "Alumnae" box is jogging down. I imagine some sort of older IE padding bug. [...] Sorry about the tardy reply. The problem is universal - you are mixing pixel widths with EM size

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Start at the bottom!

2013-10-09 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
+1 Sent from losPhone On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:50 PM, "Eric A. Meyer" wrote: > On 9 Oct 2013, at 15:48, Theresa Jennings wrote: > >> Can this now be considered off-topic and not germane to the art and science >> of CSS? Let's all get back to coding, k? > > 130% agreed, and in fact I said in my

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Start at the bottom!

2013-10-09 Thread Eric A. Meyer
On 9 Oct 2013, at 15:48, Theresa Jennings wrote: Can this now be considered off-topic and not germane to the art and science of CSS? Let's all get back to coding, k? 130% agreed, and in fact I said in my reply this morning: "Please note that this thread should NOT become an argument about

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom!

2013-10-09 Thread Theresa Jennings
Can this now be considered off-topic and not germane to the art and science of CSS? Let's all get back to coding, k? __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- h

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom!

2013-10-09 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-10-09 19:53 (GMT+0100) Philip Taylor composed: in my experience (40+ years in IT, one of the first ARPAnet users outside of the military), it is these days the case that bottom-posters are usually the most guilty of failure to prune. As one who subscribes to more than 75 lists of vario

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom!

2013-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
Felix Miata wrote: > The above quote from Chris Rockwell is typical of top-posters, unusual > from bottom posters and interleavers. Absent list mail footers being > discussed (as here), quoting them is never appropriate. Quoting footers > is lazy, disrespectful aka wasteful, and typically contra

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom!

2013-10-09 Thread Felix Miata
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and mailing lists? #2 is zero trimming: On 2013-10-09 12:59 (GMT-0400) Chris Rockwell composed: ...

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Barney Carroll
FYI David's last email (dated 19:14 on the 9th of October) was interpreted by my client (GMail mobile for iPhone) as being one huge quote and no original material. Once expanded — the entire contents being collapsed by default — the content appeared to me as an inscrutable series of lines beginning

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread David Laakso
Apology for the noise. The list policies are here: Best, David Laakso On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM, David Laakso wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Chris Rockwell > wrote: >> I'm not the one to make the decision, but I'm pretty sure this is of

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Chris Rockwell wrote: > I'm not the one to make the decision, but I'm pretty sure this is off-topic > - I wasn't going to respond because of this, and that I interpreted the > tone as overtly confrontational from the get go. However, I have a feeling > that, if an

[css-d] CSS Testing resources site

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Rockwell
Just came across this today: http://csste.st I haven't spent much time with it, but it looks like a good CSS resource. -- Chris Rockwell __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/cs

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Rockwell
I'm not the one to make the decision, but I'm pretty sure this is off-topic - I wasn't going to respond because of this, and that I interpreted the tone as overtly confrontational from the get go. However, I have a feeling that, if an official policy were to be put into place, this conversation ma

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: > I guess it's your kind of common courtesy to repost private email > correspondence that you initiated offlist yourself. Why not respond > to the similar posts I made to the list instead? Very strange. Out of respect for list policies ("Avoid[ing] Personal Conflict on Mailing Lists.

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread MiB
9 oct 2013 18.23 Philip Taylor: > I sent the following two replies off-list, but as our esteemed > leader has not ruled the discussion off-topic, I repeat > them here so that all points of view may be considered. I guess it's your kind of common courtesy to repost private email correspondence t

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
I sent the following two replies off-list, but as our esteemed leader has not ruled the discussion off-topic, I repeat them here so that all points of view may be considered. Philip Taylor MiB wrote: > What's up with the top posting from people like Chris Rockwell, Tom > Livingston, Kar

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread MiB
9 okt 2013 16.28 Karl Snyder: > Also, chopping the heck out the original post might make it impossible for > those who are not keeping the current thread in the brains, from knowing > exactly what you are taking about. Well, leaving an unedited mess below your response forcing the user to scrol

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Karl Snyder
Top/Bottom/Inline postings? You ask, “What is the most annoying thing on usenet and mailing lists?” I may be new to this list, but not to the internet and the things before it. I vote for commentators who what to control things like this. I post on many list and if I have to change my way of pos

Re: [css-d] Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too

2013-10-09 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Theresa Jennings wrote: > Well, I fixed it in IE8. I'm not going to worry about IE7. Here's my code: > > @media all { > > #ie8 #iconsRectangle .wp-image-1144 { > margin-right: .2em; > } > > #ie8 #homeBottWrapper { > width: 100%; > marg

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread MiB
9 oct 2013 14.25 Eric A. Meyer: > whatever your reply style, you trim the quoted material to include only that > which is relevant and absolutely necessary to your reply, and no more. This trimming is central to make any response fully available. One may ask since when great designers does n

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Eric A. Meyer
On 9 Oct 2013, at 7:06, MiB wrote: What's up with the top posting…? I'll start by saying that, as you can tell here, I'm personally a fan of interleaved replies as opposed to top-posting, and I even indicated that preference in the list policies (http://css-discuss.org/policies.html). N

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:16 AM, John D wrote: > This is debatable because there are no right or wrong ways of doing things > when it comes to posting on a forum or a newsgroup. > > Some of us prefer top posting so that people can read what is being posted > rather than scrolling down the long thr

Re: [css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread John D
This is debatable because there are no right or wrong ways of doing things when it comes to posting on a forum or a newsgroup. Some of us prefer top posting so that people can read what is being posted rather than scrolling down the long thread to read the post. Only the post being replied to

[css-d] Start at the bottom! (was "Front page breaking in IE8, maybe 9 too")

2013-10-09 Thread MiB
What's up with the top posting from people like Chris Rockwell, Tom Livingston, Karl Desaulniers and Theresa Jennings (a few). I'm usually quite tolerant to this, but I quickly lost interest in the problem and any solutions when usage of this was as widespread as in this thread. The ideal is if