Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-12 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
On the first message from either person. Jeff Gates: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philip: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-12 Thread Philip Taylor
Chris, could you please forward (to the list) the message headers in the message from me which you believe was in Korean encoding, as I did with your message ? What you "quoted" was sent (by you) in Korean encoding (euc-kr) so it mis-represented what I had sent which was sent in utf-8 as with all

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-12 Thread Chris Williams
As I noted and quoted, YOUR email had the Korean encoding markers before I even entered the conversation. On 10/11/15, 11:56 PM, "Philip Taylor" wrote: > > >Chris Williams wrote: > >> Philip's second reply in this thread has the same markers. I hadn't >>even >> entered into the conversation yet

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Taylor
Chris Williams wrote: > Philip's second reply in this thread has the same markers. I hadn't even > entered into the conversation yet. "Philip's second reply in this thread" is presumably my message of 09/10/2015 17:36, which read : > Gates, Jeff wrote: > >> Instead of a ³tick² mark for an ap

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Williams
Philip's second reply in this thread has the same markers. I hadn't even entered into the conversation yet. - From: Philip Taylor ... Content-type: text/plain; charset="EUC-KR" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable - On 10/11/15, 5:19 PM, "css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread MiB
12 okt 2015 kl. 02:01 skrev Chris Williams : > Yeah, well whatever. I'm using Outlook on the Mac, which is not set to > Korean, as Philip seems to believe. When Philip quoted your letter, he didn’t think anything else beyond the fact that your message had among it message headers the character

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Williams
Yeah, well whatever. I'm using Outlook on the Mac, which is not set to Korean, as Philip seems to believe. From: Tom Livingston Date: Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 4:37 PM To: Christopher Williams Cc: CSS-D Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe On

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Tom Livingston
that Jeff was trying to communicate. Philip Taylor" > From: Tom Livingston > > Date: Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM > To: "p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk " > > Cc: Christopher Williams >, CSS-D > > > Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Williams
This. From: Tom Livingston Date: Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM To: "p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk" Cc: Christopher Williams , CSS-D Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe I only saw superscripted numbers as well, and I have my doubts that ios9.

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Tom Livingston
On Sunday, October 11, 2015, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > For what it's worth, I usually use entities and have yet to hear of any > > issues. > > > > This: ’ not: ' > > > > Though, I am no Unicode scholar. > > Certain entities come predefined in HTML and XHMTL, and entit

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Taylor
Tom Livingston wrote: > For what it's worth, I usually use entities and have yet to hear of any > issues. > > This: ’ not: ' > > Though, I am no Unicode scholar. Certain entities come predefined in HTML and XHMTL, and entities can be declared for XML documents, but in plain text messages su

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Tom Livingston
On Sunday, October 11, 2015, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > > > I only saw superscripted numbers as well, and I have my doubts that > > > ios9.x gmail client can't display unicode... > > > > Saw only superscripted numbers in whose/which message, Tom ? > > P

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Taylor
Tom Livingston wrote: > > I only saw superscripted numbers as well, and I have my doubts that > > ios9.x gmail client can't display unicode... > > Saw only superscripted numbers in whose/which message, Tom ? > Philip Taylor > > Jeff gates first reply. Jeff sent in ISO-8859-1

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Tom Livingston
On Sunday, October 11, 2015, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > I only saw superscripted numbers as well, and I have my doubts that > > ios9.x gmail client can't display unicode... > > Saw only superscripted numbers in whose/which message, Tom ? > Philip Taylor > Jeff gates

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Taylor
Tom Livingston wrote: > I only saw superscripted numbers as well, and I have my doubts that > ios9.x gmail client can't display unicode... Saw only superscripted numbers in whose/which message, Tom ? Philip Taylor __ css-discus

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Tom Livingston
On Sunday, October 11, 2015, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Chris Williams wrote: > > > [Can you] explain then, your email of yesterday where you explain that > you said > > Explain what, Chris ? I sent a plain text message in UTF-8 which read : > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Cont

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Taylor
Chris Williams wrote: > [Can you] explain then, your email of yesterday where you explain that you > said Explain what, Chris ? I sent a plain text message in UTF-8 which read : > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > Gates, Jeff wrote: > >> In

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Williams
Explain then, your email of yesterday where you explain that you said --- Hmmm, what I see are superscript 3, 2 & 1 in that order, followed by a prime. What I now think you meant is : Instead of a “tick” mark for an apostrophe, I¹d like a mark like you see here: ’ I know of no way of accomplish

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Taylor
Chris Williams wrote: > My larger point was, tread carefully here. Test a lot. Unexpected > results (as Jeff sees in his simple email to this list) are likely. If one has to tread carefully for characters as commonplace and straightforward as curly quotation marks, what hope has one if one wa

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Williams
Perhaps. But browsers are not the only place where your text is interpreted. Witness the fact that in my mail program all I'm seeing for his "preferred" characters are (as you also note) superscript characters. This is presumably because his email is being converted to ASCII characters (it's a no

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
Chris Williams wrote: > 1) These characters are font dependent. Unless you are specifically > calling out fonts that you use, you risk using glyphs that will not be > found on your target machine. My understanding (and I may be wrong) is that if a modern browser is called on to display a glyph

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Gates, Jeff
On 10/9/15, 12:35 PM, "css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org on behalf of Chris Williams" wrote: >You mean the one that shows up as an unknown character on many platforms? >For reference either a superscript 3 or 1 in my email below... > >1) These characters are font dependent. Unless you are spec

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
Gates, Jeff wrote: > Instead of a ³tick² mark for an apostrophe, I¹d like a mark like you see > here: ¹ > This: ¹ Not this: ' Hmmm, what I see are superscript 3, 2 & 1 in that order, followed by a prime. What I now think you meant is : Instead of a “tick” mark for an apostrophe, I¹d like a ma

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Chris Williams
You mean the one that shows up as an unknown character on many platforms? For reference either a superscript 3 or 1 in my email below... 1) These characters are font dependent. Unless you are specifically calling out fonts that you use, you risk using glyphs that will not be found on your target

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Gates, Jeff
On 10/9/15, 12:20 PM, "Philip Taylor" wrote > > >Gates, Jeff wrote: > >> Is there a way I can use css to replace all dump apostrophes with curly >> ones ? > >Google has never heard of "dump apostrophe(s)" (and neither have I), so >I regret that I can't help with this one. > >Philip Taylor Inst

Re: [css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
Gates, Jeff wrote: > Is there a way I can use css to replace all dump apostrophes with curly > ones ? Google has never heard of "dump apostrophe(s)" (and neither have I), so I regret that I can't help with this one. Philip Taylor ___

[css-d] CSS solution for a "curly" apostrophe

2015-10-09 Thread Gates, Jeff
Is there a way I can use css to replace all dump apostrophes with curly ones? I¹m getting sick of searching and replacing with an html entity. I¹d like to apply it to the body so that it applies to all apostrophes. Thanks, Jeff > __