Re: [css-d] New to css [late response]

2010-05-11 Thread MB
Ed Seedhouse said: >Yes, it is wrong to use tables to create a layout, but not to use them >when appropriate is equally mistaken. I would argue that a general "wrong" is a bit strong in this context. "The wrong approach to reach your objectives" in many cases or "a more limited way of achieving w

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Bill Braun
MB wrote: > Bill Braun said: > >> Your interpretation is a bit on the literal side, but I am grateful for >> your kind words nevertheless. >> > > My apologies. I forgot the smiley. Digital communication can be > difficult when writing on the run. > I've impaled myself on that hook a t

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread MB
Bill Braun said: >Your interpretation is a bit on the literal side, but I am grateful for >your kind words nevertheless. My apologies. I forgot the smiley. Digital communication can be difficult when writing on the run. __ css

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Bill Braun
Ed Seedhouse wrote: > And I close with a recommendation to read the links provided by Bill. > Credit goes to MB for the links. Bill B __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Bill Braun
MB wrote: > Bill Braun said: > >> Setting aside the moral implications, having made a transition from a >> site built completely around tables to one based on , the latter, >> in my experience and opinion, takes much better advantage of CSS. I have >> been able to do everything using as I d

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Ed Seedhouse
There is nothing evil about tables, which are a part of html and as such serve the purpose of marking up tabular content. If the content is naturally tabular, then it is wrong to mark it up other than with a table. Yes, it is wrong to use tables to create a layout, but not to use them when approp

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread MB
Bill Braun said: >Setting aside the moral implications, having made a transition from a >site built completely around tables to one based on , the latter, >in my experience and opinion, takes much better advantage of CSS. I have >been able to do everything using as I did using , in a much >mo

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Tim Climis
On Monday, March 29, 2010 5:02:01 pm you wrote: > Thanks, Tim, that did the trick and put me on the right track. Now, if I > could only decide is tables are really all that evil! > I don't know that they're all _that_ evil, but I don't like them much, for what it's worth. On the other hand, wi

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Claude Needham
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Bill Braun wrote: > Setting aside the moral implications, having made a transition from a > site built completely around tables to one based on , the latter, > in my experience and opinion, takes much better advantage of CSS. I have > been able to do everything usi

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Bill Braun
Lineberger, Scott wrote: > Thanks, Tim, that did the trick and put me on the right track. Now, if I > could only decide is tables are really all that evil! > > Thanks, > Scott > > Setting aside the moral implications, having made a transition from a site built completely around tables to o

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Lineberger, Scott
Thanks, Tim, that did the trick and put me on the right track. Now, if I could only decide is tables are really all that evil! Thanks, Scott -Original Message- From: Climis, Tim [mailto:tcli...@indiana.edu] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:29 PM To: Lineberger, Scott Cc: 'css-d@lists.cs

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Claude Needham
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Climis, Tim wrote: > If you use class names (form class="track") instead of id's then put in a dot > (.) instead of a hash (#). > ---Tim If you are truly new to css, you might wonder when to use id and when to use class. id is for unique elements -- on a page b

Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Climis, Tim
> Experiment with left/center/right alignments of the "legend" headings and the > buttons; > Add a background image to each form within the table. > > Can it be done? Yes. I'm presuming that you want each form to be different, right? So you need to give each one a way to select it. Either a cl

[css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Lineberger, Scott
Hi, Quite new to css coding, so these questions may seem rather basic. If you click on the link below, you see the beginnings of a customer self-management page that I am developing. I want to: 1)Experiment with left/center/right alignments of the "legend" headings and the buttons; 2)

Re: [css-d] New to CSS, can't figure out why this won't work.

2006-12-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Netherton wrote: > I'm an old school coder. I've been writing sites for more than ten > years and I'm trying to get my head around CSS. As an old dog and I'm > trying to learn some new tricks, but this is turning out to be > incredibly frustrating. ... > http://www.mocap (dot) com/defaul

Re: [css-d] New to CSS, can't figure out why this won't work.

2006-12-06 Thread Mark J. Reed
Why do you have the header image broken up into pieces? That shouldn't be necessary with a CSS page. Visually, I see these problems - if you're trying to fix something I didn't catch, let me know. * In IE 6, the navbar is offset to the right of the header image. * In Firefox 2, there's a gap ve

Re: [css-d] New to CSS, can't figure out why this won't work.

2006-12-06 Thread david
Michael Netherton wrote: > I'm an old school coder. I've been writing sites for more than ten years and > I'm trying to get my head around CSS. As an old dog and I'm trying to learn > some new tricks, but this is turning out to be incredibly frustrating. I'm > reading Dan's book, Bulletproof Web De

Re: [css-d] New to CSS, can't figure out why this won't work.

2006-12-06 Thread css-dan
It's all about the box model ... I had the same issue ... I was so used to IE, and their way of thinking (i do like it better), but that is not what the spec says ... You can read about it here: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html In short ... your #nav is 55px too wide ... because you have

[css-d] New to CSS, can't figure out why this won't work.

2006-12-06 Thread Michael Netherton
I'm an old school coder. I've been writing sites for more than ten years and I'm trying to get my head around CSS. As an old dog and I'm trying to learn some new tricks, but this is turning out to be incredibly frustrating. I'm reading Dan's book, Bulletproof Web Design, and I'm trying to duplicate

Re: [css-d] New to CSS and need help positioning

2006-08-10 Thread Kathryn Olds
27;ve uploaded it again. I even tried a margin-top to see if it helped. Nope. Any ideas? Thanks again! Kat -Original Message- From: Tyson Tate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:06 AM To: Kathryn Olds Subject: Re: [css-d] New to CSS and need help positioning Eeek! T

[css-d] New to CSS and need help positioning

2006-08-10 Thread Kathryn Olds
Hi, I'm new to CSS - about 3 weeks into it. I've been working on this page trying to get CDs to line up under each other and off to the right, the corresponding MP3 list to listen, and chord charts next to that. Can anyone look at this and see where I've gone wrong, please? Thanks in advance. Link

Re: [css-d] New to CSS: Text randomly doesn't appear in IE/Windows

2006-04-18 Thread cj
On 4/18/06, Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Google for IE peek-a-boo bug and you'll get your answers. There is no > magic bullet fix. it's not a magic bullet but it's the next best thing with a clean workaround. note that some people say to use "height: 0;" instead of 1% to avoid rare

Re: [css-d] New to CSS: Text randomly doesn't appear in IE/Windows

2006-04-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Everything works well in various browser views from my mac, but when the site is loaded it randomly doesn't show the text in the content div of certain pages. however, if you view source in the browser, sometimes it will load and stay there, and other times it won't. It will also s

[css-d] New to CSS: Text randomly doesn't appear in IE/Windows

2006-04-18 Thread Shelley Cook
I am both brand new to this list as well as to CSS. My very first attempt to write a CSS based site has led me to the following problem. First, the site link. http://www.racsb.state.va.us/Mayfest/index.html The CSS itself can be found at http://www.racsb.state.va.us/Mayfest/ mayfestsite.cs

Re[2]: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 12, 2005, 2:17:47 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > I guess, by your comments, that DIV's need to have a "float" > characteristic to be expandable according to content? Float-based layouts are typically more flexible than absolute positioning at least. Floated elements remain in the "

RE: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: css-discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal? You have nothing set on the elements to tell them to stack horizontally. You set display: inline-block on the , but the items inside the will stack as normal, which is vertically. Setting the display p

Re: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:58:29 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > I'm trying to line up two DIV boxes horizontally. Instead, Sounds like you basically want a 2-column layout, minus the header/footer. You don't say what content will go in these boxes, so I'm assuming they should expand as necessary

Re: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Eric Shepherd
You have nothing set on the elements to tell them to stack horizontally. You set display: inline-block on the , but the items inside the will stack as normal, which is vertically. Setting the display property on the will force it to sit horizontally with other block-level elements which are SIB

[css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, all... I'm new to trying to do things with CSS...considering using CSS instead of tables and seeing what can be done. I'm trying to line up two DIV boxes horizontally. Instead, they are still vertical... What am I doing wrong?

Re: [css-d] new to css

2005-08-30 Thread Roger Roelofs
Patrick, On Aug 29, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Patrick Roane wrote: I've been working on a site that is supposed to funtion as a pure liquid .css site: www.lessstressdoctor.com/test/index.html The problem I am having is with IE 5 and 5.2 for MAC. For some reason the words 'services' 'bio' and 'testimo

[css-d] new to css

2005-08-29 Thread Patrick Roane
Hey folks, I've been working on a site that is supposed to funtion as a pure liquid .css site: www.lessstressdoctor.com/test/index.html The problem I am having is with IE 5 and 5.2 for MAC. For some reason the words 'services' 'bio' and 'testimonials' (each on their respective pages ...see the