Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Gene Falck
Hi Ingo, You wrote: Haoshiro wrote Personally I just try to rework the way I am implementing something until it is cross- browser without hacks. ... Then I'd like to see a 3px text jog fixed without hacking. ... My usual hackless "fix" for the text jog is to just live with it (and use onl

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Haoshiro
That depends on how the floats are being used. My suggestion would be to find a fundamentally different approach to producing the attempted design that would not cause the text jog to be an issue. That would be a design-specific issue and the approach could vary. It's possible I would use a

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 04/08/05, Haoshiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only a couple years? I'm a bit more pessimistic. Many web developers > are still trying to ensure their site works in IE5/Mac and some even > IE5.5/Win. Ditto. I just helped a friend who is using Win98 (not even SE). I wiped his drive and rein

RE: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Paul Seale
That is my feeling. I hope that IE7 does fix a lot of things like Min-height, etc. That said, however, how many websites will end up being "broke" because they removed a simple hack which allows those pages to be compliant. A more appropriate question would be why IE7 could not act like Fire Fox a

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Ingo Chao
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: I personally use the star html hack for IE all the time, so I really hope they don't fix that in IE7. It doesn't do any harm, and it serves as a nice filter. I may need to switch entirely to conditional comments, though. I think it depends on the amount of bugs the

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Ingo Chao
Haoshiro wrote: Heh, exactly. That's why hacks, in general, are a bad idea. More headaches for developers when future releases happen... whether that be the browser devs or the web devs! Personally I just try to rework the way I am implementing something until it is cross-browser without ha

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Haoshiro
Heh, exactly. That's why hacks, in general, are a bad idea. More headaches for developers when future releases happen... whether that be the browser devs or the web devs! Personally I just try to rework the way I am implementing something until it is cross-browser without hacks. But perhap

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Uwe Kaiser wrote: Zoe M. Gillenwater schrieb: I personally use the star html hack for IE all the time, so I really hope they don't fix that in IE7. Zoe They will do -- if I understood it right. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx#445550 Well, it's fixed right now,

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Uwe Kaiser
Zoe M. Gillenwater schrieb: I personally use the star html hack for IE all the time, so I really hope they don't fix that in IE7. Zoe They will do -- if I understood it right. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx#445550 Regards, Uwe Kaiser -- __

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: the IE team are planning to fix quite a lot of stuff. See their list at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx for details. I'd encourage everyone who is currently using IE hacks to pay close attention to the list of support improvements on this page

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Haoshiro
Nick, Only a couple years? I'm a bit more pessimistic. Many web developers are still trying to ensure their site works in IE5/Mac and some even IE5.5/Win. Only Windows XP will be getting IE7. So if we are to support Mac OS 8/9 with IE5 because no new version is coming out for it (nor Safa

[css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Jursa, Jan (init)
t) Cc: CSS-D Betreff: Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ? > Hi, > > i've read somewhere that many IE CSS deficiencies won't be addressed in > the new IE release at all. Is this really so bad? > I don't want to see all those pages looking bad in the new IE just > because Micro

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> Hi, > > i've read somewhere that many IE CSS deficiencies won't be addressed in > the new IE release at all. Is this really so bad? > I don't want to see all those pages looking bad in the new IE just > because Microsoft suddenly decided to apply to standards and all those > old IE-hacks behave a

Re: [css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 4 Aug 2005, at 5:05 pm, Jursa, Jan (init) wrote: i've read somewhere that many IE CSS deficiencies won't be addressed in the new IE release at all. Is this really so bad? I don't want to see all those pages looking bad in the new IE just because Microsoft suddenly decided to apply to standar

[css-d] hacks in IE7 ?

2005-08-04 Thread Jursa, Jan (init)
Hi, i've read somewhere that many IE CSS deficiencies won't be addressed in the new IE release at all. Is this really so bad? I don't want to see all those pages looking bad in the new IE just because Microsoft suddenly decided to apply to standards and all those old IE-hacks behave awkward now.