Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You are still caught-up in the hegelian bs. And you are simply filled with babbling nonsense. History lesson. The Hegelian dialectic is actually a tool of the Fabian Socialists. If you knew anything at all about it's history, you wou

[CTRL] Blacklisted!

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- Why Hollywood Hates Kazan by John F. McManus On March 21st, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences will present an honorary Academy Award to 89-year-old Elia Kazan, one of the most legendary film directors to ply his trade in Hollywood. Already the recipient of Oscars fo

[CTRL] Double Huh?

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
From: "Kris Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> It is Bush's watch get over  it. Yes, they should have been challengedimmediately. Whine about something new and you pay the price. They aresupposed to be the defenders. The targets were undefended on purpose.Oh please. Does rationality enter the pi

[CTRL] Huh?

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
From: "Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Hey Don Capps since you are into music pilfering, surely you know the oldsongskind of like the story of Benhadad in the bible?The mindless babbling continues. Hey! Turn off Web TV and go out and getsome fresh air. That brain needs some oxygen.DC

Re: [CTRL] US Military Stategy Takes Shape

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- > It's likely that the decision not to disable navigation aids was taken out of concern that doing so would merely shift the danger from deliberate to accidental causes. We don't know how the decision was reached, whether by refusing to implement the required response to an Air De

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "thew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why does this article completely ignore the 150+ writers actors directors, etc in Hollywood who were blacklisted and unable to work, because of political beliefs they may have held, or explored, or perhaps just didn't denounce? This brings up a

Re: [CTRL] More McCarthy...

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- "McCarthyism": Insult or Compliment? On February 20th, Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, under fire from critics for his ethically questionable activities relating to the sale and subsequent financing of an inn that he once owned, struck back by comparing the criticism to a

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-19 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I hear the march of McCarthyism coming this way. Are you a real American? Give me a break! More leftist claptrap. And disinformation as well. Time has vindicated McCarthy. DC http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =

Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Shoot The Neighbor's Cat

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
> The United States has been surprised by a mass-murderous attack from rogue forces deployed from within the U.S.A. itself. Since no foreign power has the ability to do to us what was done this past Tuesday, some rogue element operating within our military-security establishment is the only

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Paul Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bin Laden is reported to have as many as 20 tactical nuclear weapons. Rumored Paul. There have been no concrete reports of this. > Consider this...20 low-yield nukes go off in major cities around the world. After seeing what effect a th

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Like the Civilian Observer Corps of WWII and the Korean war? Yes. > During those times they were dealing with slow moving aircraft so things would have to bespeeded up now that we are dealing with aircraft that do 600 mph at tree top le

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Paul Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > After the collapse of the soviet union, weapons grade plutonium, was reported to be less heavily guarded than potatoes. There have also already being reports the Bin Laden's organisation has as many as 20 tactical nuclear devices. I perso

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As the government is operating under the last Clinton budget we know that the defence budget is less than it should be. As for who's watch is it. That is a question that can be debated. It is somewhere between Bush's watch and Clinton's w

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- I wrote: > Or how about one of those misnamed "suitcase nukes"? OK. Let's consider that scenario. Suitcase nuke goes off in a major US city, doing massive damage, albeit in an extrememly limited area (approx. 1 mile radius). Fallout is minimal precisely because the weapons are lo

Re: [CTRL] "Patience will be required for the duty ahead"

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > All too familiar but then consider McKinley, of Scotch Irish descent, was ainated and Ambrose Bierce, one of Hearsts propagandists wrote a poem and as a result of same, had to leave the country for the same was written, a week or so before M

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Okay, then what is this about then, from a previous post? They mention altitudes well below 1000ft and still being at risk. So maybe not radar but some other form of protective surveillance...? I think the previous post is chock full o

Re: [CTRL] The End of Apartheid, Redux

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is drivel. The author doesn't have a clue. But he does have an opinion. Almost all of it is wrong. I completely agree with you Nurev. If peace and "a place at the table" were all they wanted, this thing would have been settled long a

Re: [CTRL] Sammy the Bull

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Chris Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "..and even madmen manage to convey Unwelcome truths in lonely gibberish" > -W.H. Auden- Excellent quote! http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Prosely

Re: [CTRL] Rationality Lost ?

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- > A time of tragedy is inevitably, and rightfully, a time of emotion. Just as so many of us are distraught, upset, and angry at the terrorist attacks against the U.S. last week, so too are many political pundits. We should expect no less, of course, as they are Americans who, like

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The real question is why were the alert fighters so far from Washington? Otis AFB in MA is not close to DC. Didn't they have any alert fighters at Dover AFB in DE? Thats just down the road. And if not, why not? How about Langley...home t

[CTRL] The WTC collapse...from an engineering perspective.

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- Thought you all might find this interesting... http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.htm http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-b

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And doesn't the US military have radar from the ground up, especially near their prohibited and restricted zones? Nope. Radar is largely ineffective at altitudes below approximately 1000 feet or so (caveat: depending upon the terrain) l

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- >Finally, in 1974, when I was in the Marine Corps, and a crew chief on a CH 46 helicopter stationed at MCAS Quantico, VA, we often flew up to DC, and up and down the Mall. We had to be very careful at the time to maintain our altitude between 250 and 450 ft (within 3 miles of the

[CTRL] ICC a spearhead toward globalist police state...

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
  Unsafe in Any Formby John F. McManus   Those who think that getting half a loaf is better than getting nothing may be correct in the case of the starving man. But in political matters, the adage can play right into the hands of an enemy. This may turn out to be the case with the impending

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Bush Attacks [was Bush will get us into a war]

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That was certainly the general consenus. He is for breaking the ABM treaty, breaking the ban on underground nuclear tests, and against the Kyoto protocol, all actions which our allies strongly oppose. {snip} No, I do not think much of Bush, eve

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "thew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm not sure what we should do - but the minute we kill an innocent civilian, we become terrorists as well. I'm not trying to minimize the gravity of this situation by any means. As I see it, we are in deep doo doo no matter which course of act

Re: [CTRL] Another Bush in the Bunker - from OnLine Journal

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > September 17, 2001—A discerning Media Whores Online* reader nominated syndicated columnist Mark Shields, also a political analyst for The News Hour, as a "non-whore" for his lambasting of President Bush's resorting to cheerleading with

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That would be very. Tunnels and caves would be a relatively good way to avoid radiation, and radiation would contaminate the environment and lead to further escalation including possible nuclear war. Oh brother. Here we go. Possible nuclear wa

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "radtimes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > September 16, 2001-On Friday, the Senate voted 98-0 for a war resolution. It says: "The president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriat force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, com