Re: [CTRL] Civilized vs Over-civilized

2004-10-14 Thread flw2
-Caveat Lector- > John OâSullivan brilliantly points out difference between being civilized and over-civilized, and the dangers to peace and security the latter encourages. John O' Sullivan offers a childish argument. Their is no rational concept called "overcivilized" and he offers no logical ar

[CTRL] Civilized vs Over-civilized

2004-10-12 Thread Ed Raymond
-Caveat Lector- John OâSullivan brilliantly points out difference between being civilized and over-civilized, and the dangers to peace and security the latter encourages. Yet 40 years ago hostage-taking seemed a concept from the distant past -- something like slavery and piracy that Victorian im