Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-16 Thread Marilyn Wright
-Caveat Lector- On 15 Jan 01, at 10:59, Nurev Ind Research wrote: Unstable weather ( by human standards ) IS the norm. But the changes are much quicker and more dramatic than people think. Ice core samples from Scandinavia have shown that the last three " climate flips " took only 20 years.

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-16 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Marilyn Wright wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 15 Jan 01, at 10:59, Nurev Ind Research wrote: Unstable weather ( by human standards ) IS the norm. But the changes are much quicker and more dramatic than people think. Ice core samples from Scandinavia have shown that the last

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Johannes Schmidt III
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:18:52 -0500 Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- 90% of the ice is below sea level. Source, please. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Dale Stonehouse
-Caveat Lector- 90% of the ice is below sea level. Source, please. No source should be necessary for a basic fact of physics that is taught in every school. Or you can prove it yourself by putting an ice cube into a glass of water and observing what happens. Put salt in the water

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Johannes Schmidt III
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:07:21 -0800 Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check a geological survey of Antarctica or the arctic. Same with icebergs. the weight of the ice keeps 90% or more of it below water level. It's simple physics. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the ice caps are melting (and it's a big 'IF'), big deal. 90% of the ice is below sea level. If ice is below sea level and melts, there is no net increase in the water level. Predictions of the seas rising dramatically are bunk.

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- No source should be necessary for a basic fact of physics that is taught in every school. Or you can prove it yourself by putting an ice cube into a glass of water and observing what happens. Put salt in the water first if you want to more accurately simulate ocean waters.

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Years ago I read a fascinating article by a geologist - oh, how I wish I kept it! - and he was saying that the geological record showed that the Earth, prior to 10,000 years ago, had a volitile

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Where is other 10% of ice? must be that is why it is light at the top and pyramid shapes? So remember the Titanic for it was April when the icebergs were breaking awayalways thougoht that iceberg was loaded. Saba Pyramids of ice? Little pointy pieces of ice? Ice

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread kl
-Caveat Lector- On 15 Jan 2001, at 11:34, Aleisha Saba wrote: always thougoht that iceberg was loaded. Huh??? What does this mean? Blessed are those who expect nothing, for they shall not be disappointed. Jonathan Swift A

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2001-01-15 Thread Amelia
ot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'?? -Caveat Lector- From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the ice caps are melting (and it's a big 'IF'), big deal. 90% of the ic

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt III wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:18:52 -0500 Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea

[CTRL] Vs: Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Ole Gerstrøm
-Caveat Lector- August 23, 2000 Contact: Jason L. Jenkins Information Specialist (573) 882-6217 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://web.missouri.edu/~news/releases/icesheet.html GREENLAND ICE SHEET CHANGES ARE NORMAL; NO EVIDENCE OF LONG-TERM CLIMATE CHANGES, RESEARCHERS SAY

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool temps and tons of rain, this winter came early, and I'm

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Years ago I read a fascinating article by a geologist - oh, how I wish I kept it! - and he was saying that the geological record showed that the Earth, prior to 10,000 years ago, had a volitile weather system. Then, he said, for some reason,

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread John Cone
-Caveat Lector- --- Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal temperatures, we had no summer at all,

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- Kelly wrote: -Caveat Lector- Tenorlove wrote: I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool temps and tons of rain, this winter

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread John Cone
-Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The climate IS changing. THAT is what is important. We have reached the end of the interglacial period. Humans didn't cause this phenomenon. It is a natural cycle. This means that environmentalists ( I consider myself one ) are

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those measurements. For years, the tobacco industry was able to sell their poison without interference because

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread John Cone
-Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those measurements.

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Joshua This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those measurements. MJ Are you describing WHAT you are writing? This 'sky is falling' Global Warming is

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- Joshua This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those measurements. MJ Are you describing WHAT you are

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The climate IS changing. THAT is what is important. We have reached the end of the interglacial period. Humans didn't cause this phenomenon. It is a natural cycle. This means that

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-14 Thread Jayson R. Jones
-Caveat Lector- In my field we use other indicators as to climate temps over time. One of the more important being records of ice in various parts of the world. From all I have seen there is a general warming pattern for the past 14,000 years. Jayson On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:31:42 EST DIG

[CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-13 Thread DIG alfred webre
-Caveat Lector- Are there any comments or retorts to this controversial report? == LONDON TELEGRAPH Jan. 14, 2001 Global warming claims 'based on false data' By Robert Matthews FRESH doubt has been cast on evidence for global warming following the discovery that a key method of

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool temps and tons of rain, this winter came early, and I'm sitting here listening to my furnace run

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-13 Thread Kelly
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove wrote: I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool temps and tons of rain, this winter came early, and I'm sitting here

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-13 Thread radman
-Caveat Lector- The Global Warming Debate Is Over: It's Real, Inexorable, and Headed Our Way http://www.emagazine.com/september-october_2000/0900feat1.html The verdict is in on climate change, and the news isn't good. Scientists say the effects are already occurring, and much more