Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-20 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 12/18/98 6:28:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > the impeachment ISN'T ABOUT SEX... > > Just keep telling yourself that. This is not about sex. It's about treason and bribery played out pu

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-20 Thread L. Shipton
Original Message- From: Stopforth, Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ... > -Caveat Lector- > Oh so it IS about sex after all... Yeah, the president is getting

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-20 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >For the sake of clarification, please note that my opinion, albeit shared >by many, is neither new, nor the line of any party. BTW, watch that >stereotyping! The claim that every nonmember of Cult Clinton is by >default a Republican is as si

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-20 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 19 Dec 98 , KA wrote: > And as I've mentioned more than once, federal judges HAVE been impeached > for behavior which could be construed to be solely 'sexual matters and > personal crimes'...so if conduct is considered an impeachable offense in > a federal judge, why WOULDN'T

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-19 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 10:02 PM 12/19/98 -0500, Jerry Harp wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Then, shazam, it was no longer a matter of sex or about lying. It was a >matter of lying under oath about sex! Phew! (see Barb Witts last post if you >doubt that this is the new party line. For the sake of cl

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-19 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: From January to October the Republicans and the news media told us it was all about sex. MJ: In January, Mr. Clinton LIED -- about having a sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. Had it NOT been for the dress, he would STILL be lying about it. What

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-19 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 6:49:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > No, it's you Clintonistas who keep telling yourself it IS only about > sex... > > The rest of us know it's about perjury and obstruction of justice... > >From January to October the R

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among...

1998-12-19 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > -Caveat Lector- > >On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, E Mael wrote: >>it is the pervasiveness of alcoholic poisoning in this country that >>accounts for the all pervasive symptom that people think that they can >>change someone's mind about anything at all.

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-19 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/19/98 7:10:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>The Constitution is a 'political document. >> >>It is not a legal document using 'Law' definitions. > >It most certainly IS a legal document, it is the document from

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among...

1998-12-19 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, E Mael wrote: >it is the pervasiveness of alcoholic poisoning in this country that >accounts for the all pervasive symptom that people think that they can >change someone's mind about anything at all. furthermore it is only the >ones who step out from the alc

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-19 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The Constitution is a 'political document. > >It is not a legal document using 'Law' definitions. It most certainly IS a legal document, it is the document from where all other U.S. laws stem... CONSTITUTION: ...a) the sys

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-19 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- Well, I hope we can agree to disagree. The Constitution is a 'political document. It is not a legal document using 'Law' definitions. If anything, the constitution is a 'common' document. "Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemea

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 98-12-18 11:02:10 EST, you write: << At 06:52 AM 12/18/98 -0600, Linda Minor wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Anyone who refuses to see that this was a set up is no different than the >people who followed Hitler blindly into the holocaust. O.k., assuming, ar

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- Linda Minor says; << Thanks for your posts. What some people with tunnel-vision or blinders on this list can't seem to comprehend is what my favorite teachers in undergraduate school always called, laughingly, "the Big Picture." This is why Hitler was able to control the Ge

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: As a strict Constitutionalist (I'm making an assumption that you consider yourself as one...), you favor a small government, I presume. At least, one that does not abrogate to itself any rights that are not delegated to it. That is an a

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Personally, I think the president should resign. Perjury is not an >impeachable offense. Sure it is...legally, perjury is considered a 'weightier' crime than bribery... Federal judges have been impeached merely for frequenting bawd

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 01:16 PM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >In a message dated 12/18/98 2:55:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> >> As far as Livingston, or any of the other philanderers/crooks in office, >they >> too can screw their brains out, they just

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
y, December 18, 1998 12:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ... > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 12/18/98 6:28:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > the impeachment ISN'T ABOUT SEX... >

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >So it is irrelevant if Livingston's had an affair in his own past...it is >irrelevant if EVERYONE in the House of Representatives has had an >extramarital affair, since the impeachment ISN'T ABOUT SEX... > > >June you are right june; as every

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread E Mael
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >Or perhaps not doing anything at all, allowing Clinton to get away with >perjury, while any regular citizen committing perjury would find the full >weight of the jurisprudence system crashing down on their heads -- such a >double standard would

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 6:28:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > the impeachment ISN'T ABOUT SEX... Just keep telling yourself that. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic scre

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 2:55:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > As far as Livingston, or any of the other philanderers/crooks in office, they > too can screw their brains out, they just cannot lie about it beforea trial > court and a grand jury. > In

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 5:07:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Or perhaps not doing anything at all, allowing Clinton to get away with >perjury, while any regular citizen committing perjury would find the full >weight of the jurisprudence system crashing down on their heads -

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- May I had an amen. Personally I don't really care for all the banter, but it does serve a purpose and lets us see all the silly, explorations that go on and how 'history' is written, myopically. Dogmatic actions begat by 'thought' 'boxes' prepared well in advance. Life is but

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 06:52 AM 12/18/98 -0600, Linda Minor wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Anyone who refuses to see that this was a set up is no different than the >people who followed Hitler blindly into the holocaust. O.k., assuming, arguendo, that your speculation is correct, I would still prefe

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/17/98 7:06:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Sources say Livingston was called recently and told a story about his past could be coming out soon. >> Yeah, well if some kind soul had called Clinton and told him about Linda baby, the

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Linda Minor wrote: >get a law passed. If you can't control the president any other way, you >select someone to set him up (like Monica, with her sexually obsessive >background and ties to wealthy families like Peter Straus), then get her a >job as an unpaid

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: >I guess you're not up on your Clinton trivia. The Republican Party's >campaign to subvert two national elections began eight years ago... >Starting with Larry Nichols/Rush Limbaugh...and other honchos in the >Republican party who used talk radio to

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Sno0wl wrote: >And I say that before they hold Clinton over the spit, let every >single on of those legislators who has had an extramarital affair >step downand let's see who's left. Did any of those legislators perjure themselves regarding the affair?

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 12:13 AM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >The private lives of our reps ought to remain as such. > >Papers like Roll Call and dirt mags like Hustler, both allegedly involved in the >Livingston expose, apparently have nothing better to do but go on WH tips and >r

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- MJ Sorry for placing you in a box. I'm glad that you are appreciative of the need for government. As a strict Constitutionalist (I'm making an assumption that you consider yourself as one...), you favor a small government, I presume. At least, one that does not abrogate to its

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Barb Witt
-Caveat Lector- At 10:00 PM 12/17/98 +, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >On 17 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote: > >>  -Caveat Lector- >> >> >From http://www.rollcall.com >> >> Livingston Confesses Affairs >> >> By Jim VandeHei >> >> House Speaker Bob Livingston (R-La.) tonight plans to disclose to th

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
g new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust -- : From: A.C. Szul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ... : Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 11:13 PM : : Now before ya'll jump all over this and say it's a double standard b/c we

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Mr. Tunstall, With all due respect ... I think you have me confused with a Republican -- who in general are merely a little to the 'right' of the Democrats who are 'well to the left'. *I* am just to the left of Anarchy realizing that government is needed to avoid endless gang w

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Public discourse has sunk to this level because one of our major parties is on a crusade. As a result of their error, they've lost seven seats in the House and their leader has had to take a hike... On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, A.C. Szul wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > The private l

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- MJ- I guess you're not up on your Clinton trivia. The Republican Party's campaign to subvert two national elections began eight years ago... Starting with Larry Nichols/Rush Limbaugh...and other honchos in the Republican party who used talk radio to do character assassinations

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread A.C. Szul
-Caveat Lector- The private lives of our reps ought to remain as such. Papers like Roll Call and dirt mags like Hustler, both allegedly involved in the Livingston expose, apparently have nothing better to do but go on WH tips and reveal crap no one out here really cares about. Yuck! Tonite, Dr

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: And I say that before they hold Clinton over the spit, let every single on of those legislators who has had an extramarital affair step downand let's see who's left. MJ: Perhaps I missed it, but could you kindly posit those articles of impeachment whic

Re: [CTRL] Honour Among ...

1998-12-18 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Dec 98 , Alamaine wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > >From http://www.rollcall.com > > Livingston Confesses Affairs > > By Jim VandeHei > > House Speaker Bob Livingston (R-La.) tonight plans to disclose to the > Republican Conference that he has had sexual affairs in his past a