CS: Pol-Dump the Pump

2000-09-13 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I thought the emergency order was simply to allow Tony >to jump to the front of the queue! Steve, If the order in Council invokes the Emergency Powers Act of 1920 it does not give the present regime a completely free hand. IIRC, the powers mus

CS: Pol-Dump the Pump

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] No the Cabinet will be using their Ministerial Jags and Rovers at public expense, for work anyway. Some petrol supplies are becoming available here in South Wales but not much, a three hour wait for L10 worth of 4-star or diesel at one filling stat

CS: Misc-5.56mm miniguns

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once something is in the military inventory it usually hangs around. I suspect 5.56mm miniguns were acquired for use on light vehicles and light helicopters due to the extra weight penalties a 7.62mm mini-gun imposes, also in the volumes a minigun

CS: Pol-HO press release

2000-09-13 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >A bit heavy on the coppers, or rather a bit light on >shooting reps. I count nine in law enforcement, six >from shooting backgrounds. Steve, True, and a majority are undoubtedly Crown servants, with an obligation to respect the common law right

CS: Pol-Who to vote for/Dump the pump

2000-09-13 Thread nations
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, an interesting quote from John "2 jags" Prescott this morning on tele was, when shown the phone-in poll results: "Asked the question "Should the blockades be lifted?", 67% of the 13,000 people asked by GMTV said "No". Just 23% said it was time for the blockades to

CS: Pol-US told its gun culture is based on myth

2000-09-13 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tsk, tsk, tsk. There is an old Chinese saying: "Lies travel around the world many times before truth has a chance to put her sandles on." According to William Weir, in his fine book, "A Well Regulated Militia, The Battle Over Gun Con

CS: Legal-victim was shown his grave

2000-09-13 Thread KiPng
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is rather long but totally bizarre KIDNAP VICTIM `WAS SHOWN HIS FRESHLY DUG GRAVE' 131559 SEP 10 By Melvyn Howe, PA News A nightclub owner threatened to "burn, cut up and bury" a young computer expert he blamed for a L28,000 gunpoint robbery, a c

CS: Pol-More Dumpy Pumpy

2000-09-13 Thread Brian Toller
From: "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED] With regard to why we don't take similar action to the truckers and farmers. It will be interesting to see over the coming months how many FAC's and SGC's of those photographed on the picket lines are refused renewal or otherwise hassled. Brian T (Stil

CS: Misc-clay pigeon website

2000-09-13 Thread andrew
From: andrew gant, [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit www.claypigeonshoots.co.uk The Shooters Website - it has all the latest shoot reports, results, discussion forum, news, games room, shooting product reviews, classified ads and lots more. A definate bookmark! This is a great site done by shooters, for

CS: Crime-murder/suicide

2000-09-13 Thread KiPng
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HUSBAND SHOT HIS WIFE, THEN HIMSELF 131346 SEP 10 By Paul Bull, PA News A man blasted his wife with a shotgun before taking his own life, police confirmed today. The bodies of the couple, who were today been named as John and Naomi Hook, were discovered in th

CS: Misc-it's cheaper elsewhere

2000-09-13 Thread VinceB
From: "VinceB", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally, I'm happy for any dealer to make a reasonable profit but can anyone explain how I can buy Vihtavuori powder in the US for about L10.00 per pound when it costs almost double that in the UK? We are a lot nearer to Finland than the USA is. Does anyone

CS: Pol-US told its gun culture is based on myth

2000-09-13 Thread Kathy Rodriguez
From: "Kathy Rodriguez", [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think guns were an expensive item, whith very few makers before the revolution. the point is moot however for 250+ years we the american people have had access and private ownership of arms., and i dont think taking them away from the people is going

CS: Legal-retrospective legislation

2000-09-13 Thread nick royall
From: "nick royall", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >banning our firearms isnt retrospective legislation >because Margaret Thatcher changed the rules to suit >herself when she nationalised and then privatised the >Trustee Savings Bank in 1987 before the 1988 Firearms >Act. We lost that argument before we eve

CS: Misc-its cheaper elsewhere

2000-09-13 Thread nick royall
From: "nick royall", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some gun dealers mark up their goods beyond what many would like to pay and I know some that are miserable to boot but so are many of their customers! Fultons is not a place you would buy stuff from on a weekday but when you need that item when you

CS: Legal-Police identify 15 problem areas

2000-09-13 Thread RustyBullethole
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Times 13.9.00 Police identify 15 problem areas BY STEWART TENDLER, CRIME CORRESPONDENT FIXED parking penalties, roadblocks and stop-and-search provisions are among police powers expected to be challenged under the Hum

CS: Pol-Dump the Pump

2000-09-13 Thread Neil Francis
From: "Neil Francis", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I will gladly put up with the whole list of "minor discomforts" that you >mention, Minor now - as I say lets see how the people fare when the food runs out on Tesco's shelves. We are already having the 'for the sake of the children/disabled/sick/elderly

CS: Pol-Who to vote for

2000-09-13 Thread Alex
From: Alex Holmes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some thoughts from the former colonies on this thread. I have reservations about the value of trying to select individuals to vote for. The problems with this approach are that the individual MP will in all probability bow to the whip and follow party line

CS: Pol-Dump the Pump

2000-09-13 Thread Bippygee
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For what it's worth, exactly what I believe, too. Today, Blair has realised that he is not a golden boy; that he can forget the polls and the politicial pundits. The guy is an authoritarian, leaning towards a fascist. This past few days he must've felt he has an uncerta

CS: Target-electronic targets

2000-09-13 Thread Martyn
From: "Martyn", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Typical of the lack of advertising by the NRA that's all I can say. Our club has used the ETR in three different locations down at Bisley over the past 7 years. Jim (RO) is very protective of it as the sensors at the target end often get damaged and the Swiss r

CS: Misc-It's cheaper in the USA/Europe/anywhere

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your also forgetting the interest of the Inland Revenue, Customs & Excise/VAT and the local authorities collecting Business Rates. Part time dealers are having a hard time with all of them. Shooting consumables are expensive in the UK and VAT need

CS: Pol-HO press release

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that two of the ACPO reps have firearms policy remits within ACPO - One for firearms and one for criminal use of firearms. One wonders why they need to separate the two from a police prospective? Regards Jerry Cybershooters website: http:/

CS: Pol-Dump the Pump

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you'll find our direct taxes are high compared to the EU as a whole, while we also pay very high indirect taxes by having one of the highest VAT rates in Europe. Regards Jerry -- We don't have one of the highest VAT rates in the EU, I thin

CS: Pol-Dump the Pump

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now Tuesday evening at 10:30 pm and here in South Wales - mid way between Cardiff and Swansea - there is no fuel at all and there hasn't been for 24 hours. Same is true of Cardiff, Swansea and the valleys. Bread and milk has also run out in many ar

CS: Misc-Sierra Leone

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was under the impression that the Gazelle had now been (or was shortly to be) retired. Its a small - 5 seater - helicopter usually manned by a pilot and observer/gunner. Weapons load is fairly limited - 7.62mm machine guns (door mounted on pintle

CS: Misc-Sierra Leone

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds more like the supporting helicopters (most likely the Lynx) and the Chinooks were carrying mini-guns and possibly cannon and rockets as well as 7.62mm (this from the media interviews with the Paras). Regards Jerry Cybershooters website: h

CS: Misc-Sierra Leone Rescue

2000-09-13 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Plenty of .50 Browning M2's in evidence - on two separate mounts on some Landrovers. A mix of GPMG's and .50's on others. Regards Jerry Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

CS: Misc-WW2 Dumped Guns

2000-09-13 Thread SSAA
From: SSAA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve I remember an article in the A/Rifleman that shows a US competitive rifle shooter getting his 03 back after the war, cheers Gary Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

CS: Pol-Who to vote for

2000-09-13 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] In view of this we all decided to stay at home next polling day like last time. He must have been joking wasn't he? We never found out since he sloped off muttering something about us seeming naive. Well, are any of them worth voting

CS: Pol-US told its gun culture is based on myth

2000-09-13 Thread RustyBullethole
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] US told its gun culture is based on myth In the 18th-century heyday of the vaunted independence militias few people had firearms, a new book says. Martin Kettle in Washington Tuesday September 12, 2000 The Guardian The gut belief of many Americans