;s necessary.
Any program that doesn't open all files, except text files, with "rb", is a
counterexample to this.
Again, I 100% share the notion that text mounts should not be necessary.
But when even such basic apps as tar get this wrong, I simply don't see how
anybody can r
> Here's a new one to add to that: Windows XP x64 uses *two*
> program files
> directories:
>
> C:\Program Files
> C:\Program Files (x86)
>
Oh God, they didn't.
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"POSIX-Brand Breakfast Cereal: Eases The Pain*"
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> I think it's a pretty hard problem and I really don't care
> about POSIX
??? This must be a typo, or you wouldn't be here.
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kly would expect
them to cause more problems than they solved, but who knows, you might get
lucky.
> So that being said, why can't the cygwin libraries be linked
> statically?
>
An entirely separate issue, and completely unrelated to writing Windows
drivers. It would do you no
d device anyway).
You should see if there is a firmware upgrade available for it.
Then again, I know firsthand that Microsoft had USB Mass Storage pretty
wildly wrong as late as the release of XP SP...2 I think, maybe 1, so who
knows, could be MS's fault.
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around all your crazy malloc'd stacks? Seriously
Chris, how is it that you can come up with all these wild... Schemes... and
yet you can't just admit you've taken a wrong turn at Albequerque and do
things in a sane way?
Whatever, I'm with Faylor. Good luck, and good night nur
> From: "Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >In the post you're replying to, I listed the legitimate reasons for
> >wanting to do it. Here they are again:
> >
> >- If you're writing a task switcher.
>
> And what's the difference between a task swi
of things are
> "legitimate"?
No, just an old country programmer who can recognize the "wrong
problem+wrong solution=disaster" situation when he sees it.
> Do you actually realise that not all computer languages can
> be implemented with a model of one stack?
>
ld not scan the drive for all links and update
> them, for that would be absurd.
A slightly less absurd notion would be for Cygwin to keep a list of all
links and update them.
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>
This ain't the Good Old Days, and you're not writing a task switcher, which
is the only legitimate reason to be doing what you're trying to do.
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at cygstart and Luc Hermitte's cyg-wrapper.sh
> (http://hermitte.free.fr/cygwin/)
>
Thanks for that link Morche; I probably knew about this but never tried it.
Should come in pretty handy.
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ng with
> spaces"' | awk -F'"' '{ print $2 }'
> results in
> /thing with spaces
>
> Ken
I don't follow; why not just use sed and be done with it? Sed is good at
regex, and regex is the best solution to this problem. Give to Caesar what
is Cae
en you do, be sure to publish a writeup in a prestegious journal so
the rest of us can finally solve the mystery. ;-)
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pers."
>
> -- Frodak
>
Weren't we supposed to have ditched filesystems entirely by now, and be
storing all of our ASCII text files with their completely-intractable
combination of "\r\n"/"\n"/"\r" line endings in some sort of object-oriented
database
[snip]
>
> Looks like a clash between the two compilers.
COMPILER FIGHT! ;-)
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Don't know. That's not even a word!
>
I used to play the Concludion in my high-school marching band. I was never
very good, and I never did figure out what all those left-hand buttons were
for, but man oh man, did it ever get me the chicks!
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he time is out by one hour.
Can someone please verify my findings and confirm I'm not going mad or is
this a known madness I can cure?
Thanks
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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I thought it didn't matter, especially since it's in the HTML at
the top of every archive page
(http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2005-06/) anyway.
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t that would make too much sense, so I for one shall not hold my breath.
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> Both rxvt and the cmd.exe window only support 16 colors.
Welcome to 1983. I at least hope they include those horrid CGA colors.
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solution here is to open the file in binary
mode and handle the various EOL chachter combinations in the SpamAssasin
code. Which, yeah, is unfortunately reinventing a wheel which should have
been "permanently reinvented" in the last century. But hey, it's only the
first few years of
hesied almost two thousand years ago!:
"But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first." -
Matthew 19:30
Aaaaahhhh! It's the rapture! Quick, get the CR/LF thing solved before God
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Not if you're careful.
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not implement the /dev directory.
>
Actually it has for a while now.
> I'm afraid there is no cygwin command to find out the order
> of devices plugged to the system although I'd be glad if
> someone corrects me and says that there is.
>
You're correct here tho
e fork() concept was a good idea, indeed how they ever even
thought it up ("Oh my, wouldn't it be nice if I could magically duplicate
the entire state of my app in a new process, even though there has never
been a reason to do so?"), so my life's goal is to eliminate fork() enti
sh != bash" issues?
Hence:
- I still say /bin/sh == bash is the way to go.
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ONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh.
>
> FWIW, I did find that the configure scripts I tested ran
> faster under ash than under bash, but only by 4% to 8%.
>
> Regards
> Thorsten Dahlheimer
Wait... So everybody's *always* been using bash during configures?
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conclusion we must jump to is that, at least on a machine as awesome as
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Configuring wxWindows from cvs, on a 3.4GHz P4:
Sh = Ash:
real3m55.351s
user5m8.610s
sys 1m53.240s
Sh = Bash:
real3m41.850s
user5m6.220s
sys 1m53.426s
Looks like the time has come.
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> From: [EMAIL PRO
Roy Wiseman wrote:
> I agree that Symantec are a bit of satanic corporation,
Wow, I've never heard it put so correctly and succinctly. Perhaps the new
Pope can help us all out and exorcise Symantec, McAffe, and Google Desktop
Search.
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>
> Thank you for answer Gary :-)
> The nedit 5.3 is probably not from cygwin distribution, but I
> don't know from where I downloaded it a few years ago.
> Probably at that time the nedit was not yet distributed as a
> cygwin package.
Well, from your cygcheck
uses the
newlib C library (which doesn't support them). Are 5.3 and 5.4+ linked
differently? See what "cygcheck nedit.exe" says. I don't know why you'd
get different results with the older version, since again locales weren't
ever supported.
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$ ahh, what a good nap
<< waits for CR >>
which I believe indicates the problem you reported is still present in that
snapshot.
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ucida Console-bold-14"' part sets the font and its size.
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
> Mohammad Khadhrawi
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he link I sent -- clicking on links is even
> easier than
> >running the sample code).
>
> Yes. You're right. I should have clicked on the link rather
> than assuming. I had a knee jerk reaction to what I thought
> was a company expecting cygwin tech support. I was
ating it), you are starving
the rest of the system for RAM, and then you start hitting your pagefile.
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> -Original Message-
> From: hermitte[snip]
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: Mutt-1.4.2.1i-1
>
> Hello.
>
> "Gary R. Van Sickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have updated the version of mutt on cygwin.com to 1.4.2.1i-1.
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:31 AM
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> On May 25 03:15, Gary R. Van Sickle wro
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> On May 25 00:59, Gary R. Van Sickle wro
"Once sent, your message will be reviewed by one of the cygwin-announce
moderators and, once approved, will be automatically forwarded to the cygwin
mailing list with an [ANNOUNCEMENT] prepended to the subject."
This never happened with the latest mutt release AFACT.
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> From you debug output:
> 204.127.134.146 in hosts_avoid_esmtp? yes (matched
> "imailhost.worldnet.att.net")
> not sending EHLO (host matches hosts_avoid_esmtp)
>
> If you don't send EHLO, the functionality is reduced.
>
> Pierre
>
I get the
> -Original Message-
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> Hello Gary,
>
> Gary R. Van Sickle a
Never mind, I got ssmtp to work over SSL. ${EXIM_MAINTAINER} might want to
check if what I was trying to do can actually be done on Cygwin though.
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[snip]
>
> This one lives in libcrypto.a. The attached configure.in and
> an autoconf solve the link error for me (don't know if it
> actually works yet).
Just tested it, works great.
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reference to
> > `_X509_free'
> >
> >I commented the line out and I got an executable
> which I could
> > install and run,
>
> I don't know what the right fix would be.
>
This one lives in libcrypto.a. The attached configure.in a
ername and password munged, but I get the same results when I
have my real UN & PW in (what I believe to be) the proper exim.conf
locations.
So is it a Cygwin problem, an exim problem, or a Gary problem? I'll let you
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exim.conf
sabling it and even rebooting don't change anything, I
> > still get "Permission Denied"s. Gat dang, and I was just
> itching to
> > put McAff... er, I mean, a certain virus scanner
> manufacturer... back
> > at the top of The List ;-).
>
>
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> On May 18 04:57, Gary R. Van Sickle
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: Mv after tar in a shell script problems
>
> "Gary R. Van Sickle" wrote:
y basic here, because configures
> etc are working fine.
>
...and, if I change the mv to a loop which keeps trying if there's a
failure:
while ! mv dir_name_file.tar.bz2_untars_to new_dir_name; do echo "retrying
move..."; done
it will eventually work after a few ite
ther half it
works fine. If I do it by hand, even after a "Permission denied", it works
fine. This is with both the current DLL snapshot and 1.5.16-1, current
coreutils. I must be missing something pretty basic here, because
configures etc are working fine.
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installed (i.e. switch it to "Skip").
- "Next" away and let setup do its work.
Make sure you don't screw things up though; if you accidentally turn off a
package's prerequistes, you're likely to have a mysteriously broken
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Of course, this would require massive changes to ls, and would unnecessarily
slow down and increase resource usage of the most common use case of ls,
namely getting a simple directory listing of files on a local disk.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Igor Pechtchanski
[snip]
>
> On Mon, 16 May 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
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> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fergus
>
> Tut-tu
directories /usr/bin/ and /usr/lib/ are created on startup?)
>
This I do: Those are just mount table entries. Memory usage won't change
regardless of the number or size of files in the directory a Cygwin mount
table entry points to. So there's no consequence there.
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.95.3 been removed from Cygwin ?
>
> I have tried to install it from GNU download but have been
> unsucessful.
>
> I need 2.95.3 how/can I get it built ?
>
> Aaron
>
Because it's old and crusty. You almost certainly do not "need" 2.95.3;
what i
[snip]
Sorry, I just felt I needed make the obvious contraction in the subject line
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o " foo").
> > YOU ARE ADDING SPACES to the filename. Fix your script so
> that there
> > are no spaces between "` and `".
> > _
> >
> > Thought it was clever of me to make that little ` visible
> to my old eyes.
>
> I alwa
; testing, is this
> thing on? Am I invisible all of a sudden?
Do you guys hear that tapping?
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; John
>
You could replace the /bin/sh.exe executable with a copy of bash.exe, but
that would be at the "everywhere, all the time" level. That used to be a
regularly suggested workaround for similar problems back in the proverbial
day, but it's been ages since I've done tha
ses problems for not only Cygwin but other
programs is the feature they all have where they scan files as they're being
written and/or read from disk. With any AV I use, I *always* turn these off
and always turn the incoming-email scanning on. I can't recall ever having
an AV-related
better. I've had
similarly bad experiences in the past with it, though I've been using its
latest incarnation at home for quite a while now and it hasn't caused me any
problems that I know of. Yet.
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:16 PM
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> setup.
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:45 PM
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> Subject: RE: Bespoke installations: simple elegance of
> setup.exe when setup.ini is absent
>
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, 20:58:44 -05
trolls do not get focus and can't
> be opperated in the normal manner.
As I hopefully addressed in my response to you, to the best of my knowledge
nobody is working on this. As to the question of "can", the answer there is
a most resounding "yes". There's plenty t
believe that the level of activity will increase by any
appreciable extent in the forseeable future. I know it may come as small
comfort, but it used to be worse.
If you are able to, I am certain that any effort you can lend to the
development of setup will be appreciated.
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ve to go through some contortions to make things look
Unixy, which slows them down, but those are mainly related to permissions
and such. Unless you're actually having some sort of showstopping disk
speed problems, I'd just stick to normal NTFS partitions and not worry about
a few percent
> setup.exe when setup.ini is absent
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 07:06:43PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:58:44PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >> >[snip]
> >> >
> >> >Ahem. As one of the many people r
rough the FIFO. Further, the
> echo command hangs, and will not terminate with ^C. A 'ps'
> shows an 'O' for this stuck shell. You have to do a kill -9
> on the shell to terminate it.
FIFOs are not fully implemented in Cygwin yet, but thank you for the test
case.
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 10:19:56AM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
> >> * Gary R. Van Sickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [2005-04-28 21:01:07 -0500]:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>> > So when I say "fifos just barely work" you felt the need to
>
> > * Gary R. Van Sickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [2005-04-28 21:01:07 -0500]:
> >
> > [snip]
> >> > So when I say "fifos just barely work" you felt the need to
> >> inform me
> >> > that they don't work? And that advance
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 09:01:07PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >[snip]
> >>>So when I say "fifos just barely work" you felt the need
> to inform me
> >>>that they don't work? And that advances the discussion
> how, exactly?
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:58:44PM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue
> >with the accusation that it is either "simple" or "elegant".
> >
> >;-)
&g
.
> I think such a test case is useful for development and debugging.
>
Dude, you are just *asking* for one heck of a zinger!
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[snip]
Ahem. As one of the many people responsible for setup, I take issue with
the accusation that it is either "simple" or "elegant".
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ft, I don't have the final
> version). And we haven't even mentioned the lack of INF
> support yet :)
>
> However I'm on UK time, so it won't be happening today!
>
>
> cheers,
> DaveK
You should switch to UTC.
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missing to be able to run a script from bash #
> without specifying the extension?
> #
>
>
PATHEXT is a Windows NT/etc deal. Bash doesn't use it, and AFAICT Bash
won't do what you're looking for. I don't quite get the issue here though;
if you're doing thi
hat advances the
> discussion how, exactly?
>
> cgf
>
And your pathological touchiness serves what purpose exactly? Take your
meds already. Christ.
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the standard Unixoid qualifier to that: "easy once you've done
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ou're not.
If you want to access STL objects from multiple threads, you have to make
sure to take care of the synchronization yourself. The best thing to do
would be to create a wrapper object that threadsafe-ifies the underlying
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rkely spice, but I've gotten gnucap to work fine, though IIRC it needs
an ".exe" added to one of it's config files. Why in the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@$
don't people
just use the autotools and be done with it?
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iled his idiotic complaint...
>
Ah, yeah, clearly the guy has 1337 enough skillz to set up email forwarding.
;-)
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Korn
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:15 AM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: FDA-conform validation - any hints?
>
> Original Message
> >From: Gary R
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Schormann
> Jim and Gary,
>
> thanks for your hints. Maybe I'm unnecessarily nervous.
>
> I'm still working on a good definition for "enough"
> tes
ot;seek home"
> is performed? cygcheck has always done this, any other tools
> changed to do this?
>
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>
This has been fixed. .14 is old already, try .15 (the latest).
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atisfying outcome, so ...
>
> Has anyone ever tried this before?
> Do you have any hints?
>
> Thanks all!
> Jan.
>
What Jim said, and also the FDA tends to be more concerned with test
processes and results.
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Starts for me.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:24 PM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: cygwin startup problems fixed by latest snapsho
is there
> something within the Cygwin installer or docs that tells me
> what libraries are installed with what package, etc?
In this particular instance, I think the issue you're running into is that
Cygwin uses newlib instead of glibc (the GNU C library used on Linux).
Glibc t
numpad-{+,-} under Windows, and
can fairly easily be separated out in the message loop. If nobody beats me
to it I might perhaps take a look. SteveO, how active are you in
maintaining rxvt these days? If I get a patch together can we get it
deployed in short order (weeks, not months)?
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>
> Is there a chance to see it fixed in a forecoming release of
> the rxvt package ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
I thought this went away ages ago, but I just checked and whadda ya know,
it's still there. It must have retr
you Brian Dessent.
Dude, you just sent a half-megabyte email to all of Cygwin-land. That isn't
going to make you any friends with folks on dialup.
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. O_BINARY is probably not so portable so I'll
> steer clear of that.
>
> Cheers for the help.
>
O_BINARY is POSIX. Use it. Do this if you have to:
#ifndef O_BINARY
#define O_BINARY 0
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s did not come from Red Hat. They came
> from Cygnus. That's what the "Cyg" stands for.
And here all along I thought it had something to do with cigarettes.
;-)
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r to it though is this: contrary to most Unix-heads' beliefs,
the world did not stop on the date that Unix was invented. Progress (dare I
say, "innovation"?) has in fact occurred since the first line of C code was
written, the last VT-100 terminal was thrown in the trash, and the
Um... I say Gold Star for this explanation alone, which somehow is
completely free from any hint of sarcasm, "WJM"ness, and passive aggression.
Bad day Chris? ;-)
Oh, and double-gold stars to any and all who coughed up the dough.
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eavor to answer this? thanks,
>
> JeffH
>
Cygwin1.dll.
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