default permissions=600, and can't chmod?

2005-10-10 Thread Thomas L Roche
I'm helping other members of my workgroup setup Cygwin on their winXP SP1 laptops (all pretty much like mine) to run an automated build process (which depends on ssh-agent). At least one person (I'll call him Steve :-) reports the following problems (but another person currently on vacation may

setup-2.427 fails to getUrlToStream, get_url_to_membuf (without firewall)

2004-11-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
I have cygwin installed on my older laptop. I recently got a newer one on which I installed a new fresh new cygwin, and I decided it was time to upgrade the other one. I proceeded in my usual way: * move the old Cygwin binaries to d:\ProgramFiles\old\Cygwin * Download from Internet (typically

Re: Can't get list of download sites.

2004-08-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
Tom Roche 12:42 PM 8/13/2004 I recently upgraded my Cygwin, using setup.exe, and everything works nicely ... except setup! When I do Install|Download from Internet, I get the error dialog Error Can't get list of download sites. Make sure your network settings are correct and try again. If

Can't get list of download sites.

2004-08-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
I recently upgraded my Cygwin, using setup.exe, and everything works nicely ... except setup! When I do Install|Download from Internet, I get the error dialog Error Can't get list of download sites. Make sure your network settings are correct and try again. However all my other networking is

Re: Can't get list of download sites.

2004-08-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
Tom Roche 12:42 PM 8/13/2004 I recently upgraded my Cygwin, using setup.exe, and everything works nicely ... except setup! When I do Install|Download from Internet, I get the error dialog Error Can't get list of download sites. Make sure your network settings are correct and try again.

RE: [OT?] make bash script wait for called program to finish?

2004-04-19 Thread Thomas L Roche
Barry Buchbinder Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:56:47 -0400 How about the following? $ cmd /c start /wait program_being_waited_for Tom Roche Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:01 PM I've never run windows' shell from bash, but that does the job. Larry Hall 04/18/2004 07:12 PM [For 'wait n',] 'n' is a proc id.

[OT?] make bash script wait for called program to finish?

2004-04-18 Thread Thomas L Roche
How to make a bash script wait for a program that it calls to finish? Why I ask: Don't ask me why this process is structured this way, but, in order to install some code that I need in order to test my code, I hafta a wget an (executable) extractor and some (non-executable) binaries b run the

Re: [OT?] make bash script wait for called program to finish?

2004-04-18 Thread Thomas L Roche
Tom Roche Sunday, April 18, 2004 6:20 PM what I'd like my script to do is 0 wget 1 launch the extractor UI, which I will briefly twiddle 2 wait for the extractor to finish 3 check that the installer and images were created 4 run the installer on the images I know how to script

Re: Cygwin under Wine?

2004-03-26 Thread Thomas L Roche
Larry Hall Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:41:47 -0500 But Tom has since clarified his need here. I've even clarified that running Cygwin under Wine is not _my_ need. sigh/ FWIW what I _am_ trying to do is * find out about IBMers using Cygwin * find out what they are doing with Cygwin * find out what

Re: Cygwin under Wine? was: [OT] IBMers using Cygwin?

2004-03-26 Thread Thomas L Roche
Tom Roche 03/25/2004 07:23:44 PM: I recently got a followup with some questions, notably how many IBMers are using Cygwin? If you are such a user, or can identify IBM groups using Cygwin, or can point to sources of information on this topic, please let me know. (And please post to me

FAQ searching, was: Cygwin under Wine?

2004-03-26 Thread Thomas L Roche
Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:33:52 -0500, Thomas L Roche said: (BTW: didn't there useta be a one big FAQ option, a lá the one big UG?) Joshua Daniel Franklin Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:53:56 -0800 Yes, it's at http://cygwin.com/faq/faq0.html. I seem to have borked cygwin.com/faq.html with my last update

[OT] IBMers using Cygwin?

2004-03-25 Thread Thomas L Roche
I'd like for IBM to provide internal support for the Cygwin tools. I recently got a followup with some questions, notably how many IBMers are using Cygwin? If you are such a user, or can identify IBM groups using Cygwin, or can point to sources of information on this topic, please let me know.

Cygwin under Wine?

2004-03-25 Thread Thomas L Roche
Can Cygwin currently run under Wine? Why I ask: While sounding out Cygwin users in my organization, I got the comment: If Cygwin would run under Wine, I'd be a very happy person, we wouldn't need real Windows machines for builds, and we could consign all our Windows build machines, their ITSC

Re: Cygwin under Wine?

2004-03-25 Thread Thomas L Roche
At 07:33 PM 3/25/2004, Tom Roche wrote: While sounding out Cygwin users in my organization, I got the comment: If Cygwin would run under Wine, I'd be a very happy person, we wouldn't need real Windows machines for builds, and we could consign all our Windows build machines, their ITSC

Re: Cygwin under Wine?

2004-03-25 Thread Thomas L Roche
At 07:33 PM 3/25/2004, Tom Roche wrote: While sounding out Cygwin users in my organization, I got the comment: If Cygwin would run under Wine, I'd be a very happy person, we wouldn't need real Windows machines for builds, and we could consign all our Windows build machines, their ITSC

emacs {hang, crashes} under X on 2k, was: Emacs crashing under XFree86-4.3

2004-03-19 Thread Thomas L Roche
Rajesh Balakrishnan Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:21:28 + (UTC) emacs (under X11) is working fine since Mar 06 snapshot of cygwin1.dll. http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ Thomas L Roche Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:00:00 -0500 That has not been my experience: I have been tracking the snapshots, but my emacs still

Re: {FAQ, UG} alert? rebase

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas L Roche
At 09:38 PM 2/22/2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: Given recent traffic concerning the goodness of rebase'ing, e.g. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01097.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg00899.html (but occasional breakage, e.g. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01100.html

{FAQ, UG} alert? rebase

2004-02-22 Thread Thomas L Roche
Given recent traffic concerning the goodness of rebase'ing, e.g. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01097.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg00899.html (but occasional breakage, e.g. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg01100.html ) perhaps some treatment of the topic is FAQ- or

when to rebase?

2004-02-20 Thread Thomas L Roche
Christopher Faylor Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:41:45 -0500 - I run rebaseall on all of my systems. When? After every install? Periodically? Only on weirdness? Is this just CYA, or is it UG- or FAQ-worthy? (Note that searching either's big-HTML versions for 'rebas' fails.) -- Unsubscribe info:

Re: stabilizing cygwin emacs

2004-02-20 Thread Thomas L Roche
FWIW: I can't point to any specific fixes, and I know my experience differs from others reported, but: I've been running emacs for 3 days now on X on 20040217|8, and have had precisely _1_ crash. That's the best record I've experienced since upgrading from 1.5.5-1. (That 1 crash came while on a

stabilizing cygwin emacs, was: emacs Fatal error 11

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas L Roche
it very long. Something you might want to consider (I haven't done it, and YMMV) is rebasing: Thomas L Roche Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:09:47 -0500 ~29 Jan I upgraded to cygwin-1.5.6-1, emacs-21.2.1, and whatever the latest XFree86 was then, along with the other goodness cygwin's setup advised me

Re: stabilizing cygwin emacs, was: 20040217 snapshot problem

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas L Roche
Richard Campbell Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:51:56 -0500 - I was trying the 20040217 snapshot to see if it cleared up the emacs problems I was having (which haven't been repeatable enough for me to report). Umm ... what problems? After installing the 20040217 snapshot, starting X led to inetd

RE: stabilizing cygwin emacs

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas L Roche
Richard Campbell Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:44:10 -0500 Intermittent crashes, sometimes with a stackdump produced, sometimes not. Generally after several hours/days of execution. Tom Roche wrote: Hmm ... I don't recall ever having that problem on either 1.5.7-1 (my problems have involved emacs

Re: EMACS problems with Cygwin 1.5.7.1

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas L Roche
: Thomas L Roche tlroche AT us.ibm.com Dr.. Volkmer Zell Igor Pechtchanski Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:39:26 -0500 (EST) FWIW, Ehud Karni ehud at unix dot mvs dot co dot il reported in http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg00822.html that the latest snapshot *does* fix his problem. For another

20040217 unhoses unzip!

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas L Roche
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 03:18:33PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: I've created a new snapshot http://cygwin.com/snapshots/cygwin1-20040217.dll.bz2 which incorporates Pierre's much appreciated research into the unzip[-related] problem. and which WORKS! n == 1 (I'll check how it works for

Re: 20040217 unhoses unzip!

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas L Roche
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: Hmm. I really don't understand why unless you were unzipping *a lot* of files with long filenames. There should have been something like 32MB of space to waste before you saw the problem. Igor Pechtchanski Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:09:51 -0500 (EST)

Re: failure of unzip and recent cygwin1.dll

2004-02-16 Thread Thomas L Roche
] a SEGV. No, I have discovered considerably more. Consequently my question is, is the path_conv bad? Thomas L Roche Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:01:10 -0500 (gdb) where #0 memcpy () at ../../../../../../newlib/libc/machine/i386/memcpy.S:53 #1 0x61062a91 in path_conv::set_normalized_path(char const

limiting strace?, was: failure of unzip and recent cygwin1.dll

2004-02-16 Thread Thomas L Roche
Is there a way to limit the size of the strace output _file_, rather than just the output file buffer, while preserving desired information? I previously used strace to debug the problem that 20040213 induced in emacs 'desktop', therefore in emacs' startup; nevertheless the resulting strace.out

Re: limiting strace?

2004-02-16 Thread Thomas L Roche
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: Is there a way to limit the [strace] file size directly, or to script its rotation? Igor Pechtchanski 02/16/2004 03:56:10 PM: You're on Cygwin, man! Use the scripting tools! :-) The will is there! It's the howto I need :-( Don't forget that strace

Re: limiting strace?

2004-02-16 Thread Thomas L Roche
At 04:32 PM 2/16/2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: I know how to use those tools to *report from* strace.out ... but that's not what I'm trying to do. I don't want to say, give me the last million lines from strace.out--windows being what it is, if the file's big enough I may not get a chance to ask

Re: limiting strace?

2004-02-16 Thread Thomas L Roche
At 04:32 PM 2/16/2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: I know how to use those tools to *report from* strace.out ... but that's not what I'm trying to do. I don't want to say, give me the last million lines from strace.out--windows being what it is, if the file's big enough I may not get a chance to ask

Re: failure of unzip and recent cygwin1.dll

2004-02-16 Thread Thomas L Roche
summary: strace on 20040216 failed to emit 'commit memory for cygwin heap' despite unzip failing in the recent way: tail of output (from point of failure) at end of post. details: Christopher Faylor Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:20:31 -0500 If you look at the changes that I made to cygwin yesterday:

cygwin debugging howto? was: cygwin1-20040213 hoses emacs 'desktop'

2004-02-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
Igor Pechtchanski 02/14/2004 10:58:24 AM: Please try to configure your mailer to not quote raw e-mail addresses Notes? LOL/ Sorry, that's the sort of thing I normally strip out in emacs. Hosing emacs considered harmful. On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: * I coulda been debugging

20040214 no fix for unzip

2004-02-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
Not debugging, just a straight run: inflating: /d/eclipse/builds/20040210_1925-WB213-AD-V512D-W5/eclipse/plugins/com.ibm.etools.webservice.explorer/wsexplorer/src/com/ibm/etools/webservice/explorer/uddi/perspective/UDDIMainNode.java 476 [main] unzip 2980 cmalloc: cmalloc returned NULL

Re: 20040214 no fix for unzip

2004-02-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
Christopher Faylor Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:16:59 -0500 - No one is *trying* to fix unzip, But are they trying to fix *cygwin1.dll*, which seems to have strewn breakage in its wake? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports:

failure of unzip and recent cygwin1.dll

2004-02-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
summary: unzip has been abending when run with recent cygwin1.dll: a gdb trace (showing overflow?) and configuration information is included. I would appreciate assistance locating the failing code(s) and the maintainer(s) to contact. details: I would appreciate any assistance anyone could

Re: 20040214 no fix for unzip, cygwin debugging howto?

2004-02-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
Christopher Faylor Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:12:02 -0500 it occurred to me that I could add some increased debugging which might show why cmalloc was returning NULL. How thoughtful of you. So, the next snapshot will have more strace output for the failing condition, meaning that if you do this:

Re: 20040214 no fix for unzip, cygwin debugging howto?

2004-02-15 Thread Thomas L Roche
Thomas L Roche Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:01:10 -0500 Unfortunately 20040215 came out while I was debugging 20042014. Since you do not claim to have done anything that might have actually fixed the problem, the results obtained at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-02/msg00705.html are still

debugging unzip

2004-02-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x610cac74 in memcpy () from /usr/bin/cygwin1.dll ? Why I ask: Thomas L Roche 02/11/2004 06:08 PM it seems pretty clear to me that something down deep in the base broke after 1.5.5-1: 0 both character-mode (e.g. unzip) and X (e.g. emacs) apps are broken 1 inputs

Re: debugging unzip

2004-02-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
Thomas L Roche 02/13/2004 04:47 PM How to setup gdb (and cygwin1.dll) to catch unzip problems like inflating: eclipse/plugins/com.ibm.etools.utc/IBMUTC/IBMUTC.ear/UTC.war/WEB-INF/classes/com/ibm/etools/utc/property/PropertyFormat.class 1011 [main] unzip 1120 cmalloc: cmalloc

cygwin1-20040213 hoses emacs 'desktop'

2004-02-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
After installing http://cygwin.com/snapshots/cygwin1-20040213.dll.bz2 and running emacs --debug-init from an xterm, I am unable to open files using 'desktop' at startup. On first desktop load, Emacs reports Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error Doing vfork resource temporarily

Re: cygwin1-20040213 hoses emacs 'desktop'

2004-02-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
assistance! On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: After installing http://cygwin.com/snapshots/cygwin1-20040213.dll.bz2 and running emacs --debug-init from an xterm, I am unable to open files using 'desktop' at startup. On first desktop load, Emacs reports Debugger entered--Lisp

Re: debugging unzip

2004-02-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
cygwin1-20040213 no fix for unzip I reran gdb --args ./usr/bin/unzip.exe /d/eclipse/zips/wsa-jdk-20040210_1925-WB213-AD-V512D-W5.zip from an xterm started with the snapshot. Failure was similar to previous, though it seemed to take longer: inflating:

Re: cygwin1-20040213 hoses emacs 'desktop'

2004-02-13 Thread Thomas L Roche
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: and the xterm reports bash-2.05b$ emacs --debug-init [1] 1920 bash-2.05b$ 7 [main] emacs 1920 sync_with_child: child 1152(0x270) died before initialization with status code 0x80 13072 [main] emacs 1920 sync_with_child: *** child state

Re: unzip problem after upgrading

2004-02-11 Thread Thomas L Roche
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: However I'm also, again only since upgrading [cygwin, from 1.5.5-1], having problems with unzip, e.g. inflating: /d/eclipse/builds/20040121_1953-WB213-AD-V512D-00/eclipse/plugins/com.ibm.etools.j2ee.ui/build/pluginBuild/commonbld/com/ibm/etools/ejb

debugging unzip, was: unzip problem after upgrading

2004-02-11 Thread Thomas L Roche
Thomas L Roche 02/11/2004 06:08 PM it seems pretty clear to me that something down deep in the base broke after 1.5.5-1: 0 both character-mode (e.g. unzip) and X (e.g. emacs) apps are broken 1 inputs that worked in 1.5.5-1 don't work now 2 failures are intermittent and apparently random

FAQ as One Big HTML File isn't

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas L Roche
To the doc maintainer, if s/he exists: the FAQ has a link to a target=_top href=faq0.htmlFAQ as One Big HTML File/a However faq0.html == faq.html: it's just a table of contents, which is not what I expected. By contrast, http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.txt _is_ One Big File in the manner expected.

Re: cygwin/xfree86/emacs problems after upgrading

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas L Roche
First, emacs: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Thomas L Roche wrote: [snip] Note that I run emacs via emacs --debug-init from bash in an xterm which I launch with start XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -emulate3buttons Igor Pechtchanski 02/04/2004 04:21:29 PM (rearranged) Not quite. Judging from your

howto build a debug version of a Cygwin package, and debug it

2004-02-04 Thread Thomas L Roche
Charles Plager: thanks for starting this thread, since I may also need to go down this road :-( However, please continue it under this more demonstrative Subject: line. Larry Hall Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:58:47 -0500 I'd suggest building a debug version and just try running it in gdb until you see

cygwin/xfree86/emacs problems after upgrading

2004-02-03 Thread Thomas L Roche
Apologies for cross-posting, but I don't know my problems' cause. summary: I am still experiencing post-upgrade problems with my cygwin emacs; output from cygcheck and report-emacs-bug attached. What to do? details: I was annoyed by some shortcomings of my cygwin emacs (21.1? whatever version

cygwin/xfree86/emacs problems after upgrading

2004-02-03 Thread Thomas L Roche
Apologies for cross-posting, but I don't know my problems' cause. summary: I am still experiencing post-upgrade problems with my cygwin emacs; output from cygcheck and report-emacs-bug attached. What to do? details: I was annoyed by some shortcomings of my cygwin emacs (21.1? whatever version

initial feedback on cygwin-1.5.7-1: emacs sí, unzip no

2004-02-02 Thread Thomas L Roche
Christopher Faylor Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:43:54 -0500 (EST) Changes since 1.5.6-1: - Fix malloc overflow problem which caused random SEGVs. (Christopher Faylor) FWIW since installing 1.5.7-1 early 1 Feb I have not experienced any emacs weirdness, but I'm still getting cmalloc returned NULL

XDMCP howto for cygwin? (or other remote-desktop solution)

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas L Roche
Is there an XDMCP howto for cygwin? Or is there another/better way to get what I want: My development group recently lost its testers (they now do bigger scenario tests) so we now need to do our own functional test, and we need to do it on several platforms. We develop on Windows (still, may

Re: XDMCP howto for cygwin? (or other remote-desktop solution)

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas L Roche
On 2004.01.30 21:11, Thomas L Roche wrote: I'm assuming (from traffic on the list) that cygwin supports XDMCP, but I'm unclear on * How to do it on cygwin? All the howto's I've seen reference Linux, and I'm also a little unclear on what goes on which end. Willem Riede [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01

what's the best venue for help with the cygwinized emacs?

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas L Roche
Is there some list that the {developer, maintainer}(s) of the cygwin patches for emacs listen to? Is there a support site? If not, I'm wondering whether to go to this list, another of the cygwin lists, or one of the emacs lists (e.g. help-emacs-windows)--but I want to know in which list(s) such

problems (not just) with Emacs

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas L Roche
At 01:23 PM 1/30/2004, Charles Plager wrote: Before I managed to up my cygwin install, I had emacs 21.2.1 installed as well as an emacs package tramp installed. My cygwin install was fine, but I was noticing some minor problems with my cygwin emacs (21.1? whatever version was included

iconv.h?

2003-10-29 Thread Thomas L Roche
I'm trying to build 'nd' http://www.gohome.org/nd/ a CLI for WebDAV needed to run a related WebDAV client under Emacs. I have latest libxml2 (2.5.11-1) from cygwin. But when I try to build, I get [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/emacs/eldav-0.7.2/nd-0.7.2 $ ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible

rootless cygwin emacs howto?

2003-09-09 Thread Thomas L Roche
I've been running NTEmacs for awhile, and Cygwin for awhile, but have only occasionally used X. I'd like to cut over to the cygwinized Emacs if I can keep a single desktop, i.e. run X rootless. Could someone point me to a howto illustrating setup and running of the cygwin Emacs on X, rootlessly?

rootless cygwin emacs howto?

2003-09-09 Thread Thomas L Roche
I've been running NTEmacs for awhile, and Cygwin for awhile, but have only occasionally used X. I'd like to cut over to the cygwinized Emacs if I can keep a single desktop, i.e. run X rootless. Could someone point me to a howto illustrating setup and running of the cygwin Emacs on X, rootlessly?

Re: -multiwindow crashes XWin.exe, twm does not

2003-07-30 Thread Thomas L Roche
Thomas L Roche 06:25 PM 7/29/2003 So I installed that package from setup.exe and tried: * start XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -unixkill No change: I still get the startup dialog, then a GPF. * start XWin -multiwindow -unixkill Same: dialog, then GPF. Earle F. Philhower III Tue, 29 Jul

[XWin test-92] no trayexit

2003-07-30 Thread Thomas L Roche
daniel.blueman Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:04:19 +0200 (MEST) Unfortunately, the system tray icon menu (ie not when you double-click, but when you single right click) has no entries - so no 'exit' option like previously. I also observed this: the only content of the context menu was a separator

Re: -multiwindow crashes XWin.exe, twm does not

2003-07-29 Thread Thomas L Roche
Thomas L Roche wrote: WebSphere Studio products typically put up a configuration dialog, then display the full UI. When my startxwin.bat has - start XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -unixkill I get my xterm, in which I run # local xhost + 1.2.3.4 ssh -X -l userid 1.2.3.4 # remote cd /opt

cygwin, emacs, mozilla

2002-10-24 Thread Thomas L Roche
Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/2002 02:26 PM So, is there a significant advantage to running Emacs on Cygwin this way? Yes, you get the availability of all (err, lots of :-) the tools that emacs knows how to use and integrates well with, and a nicely-done installer for same. I like the

how to remap backspace and delete keys for 'info'?

2002-02-19 Thread Thomas L Roche
When I'm in 'info' and try to scroll backward a page using the backspace key, I get *Info Help* instead. Since I also get help when I hit C-h, I suspect my backspace maps to C-h instead of DEL. (FWIW using the delete key (delete) gets the response Unknown command (~). ) Note also that I get