Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-25 Thread Reini Urban
2010/9/13 Al wanted stability stories: I run Cygwin on a double core machine with Vista. I estimate that 1 of 20 of my compilations break and need to be repeated. One weak point is the compression of man pages. I routinely run my perl compiler smokes on cygwin and linux machines. This involves

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-25 Thread Al
What are the reasons? Will this be better with Windows 7? Can Cygwin become server stable? Windows 7 was not better for me. More system DLL's and footprint, much more rebase problems. Sometimes I can only stop MSIE and MS Outlook to continue to work in my mintty shells. :-( I always

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-24 Thread Al
You'll need to be more specific about the issues you're encountering and your configuration.  See http://cygwin.com/problems.html. The majority of instabilities I observerved while compressing manpages with bzip2 -9, a minority during execessiv link operations. Some others I can't relate to

Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Al
Hello, I run Cygwin on a double core machine with Vista. I estimate that 1 of 20 of my compilations break and need to be repeated. One weak point is the compression of man pages. Others report that they don't use Cygwin because of instablilities, especially in the server context. What are the

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 9/13/2010 9:19 AM, Al wrote: Hello, I run Cygwin on a double core machine with Vista. I estimate that 1 of 20 of my compilations break and need to be repeated. One weak point is the compression of man pages. Others report that they don't use Cygwin because of instablilities, especially in

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Al
Hello Larry, What are the reasons? Will this be better with Windows 7? Can Cygwin become server stable? You'll need to be more specific about the issues you're encountering and your configuration.  See http://cygwin.com/problems.html. I am not asking this to debug my own setup. I am rather

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Markus Hoenicka
Al oss.el...@googlemail.com was heard to say: I am not asking this to debug my own setup. I am rather ask for an overall estimation of Cygwins current and future usability and stability. These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin is an open source project, and that it does not

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread mike marchywka
On 9/13/10, Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka xxx.duh wrote: Al oss.el...@xxx.xxx was heard to say: I am not asking this to debug my own setup. I am rather ask for an overall estimation of Cygwins current and future usability and stability. These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Al
These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin is an open source Sure it is related, but that doesn't answer my question. Who would keep counters of stable or instable setups? These number are exceptionally hard to come by. Even if this list is now flooded with my setup works and mine

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 9/13/2010 11:57 AM, Al wrote: These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin is an open source Sure it is related, but that doesn't answer my question. Who would keep counters of stable or instable setups? These number are exceptionally hard to come by. Even if this list is now

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Markus Hoenicka
Al oss.el...@googlemail.com was heard to say: No that is not the way to go. I think there are people which run Cygwin on more than 1 machine, so they have a personal estimation and experience. Yes, and this is where the Cygwin archives come in handy. If there are users running Cygwin on

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 05:57:08PM +0200, Al wrote: These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin is an open source Sure it is related, but that doesn't answer my question. Who would keep counters of stable or instable setups? These number are exceptionally hard to come by. Even if this

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Al
You seem to be approaching this problem as if people will say Ah! Stability issues! Right.  Well, ok, here's what you need to know. It's not me thinking in the bug - solution pattern here. I don't ask for a solution. If you think that asking a group of strangers for help with a nebulously

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Ramiro Polla
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: Others report that they don't use Cygwin because of instablilities, especially in the server context. I've also been having instabilities in my server context (Windows Server 2008 R2), but I have a few more concrete details:

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Dave Korn
On 13/09/2010 17:35, Christopher Faylor wrote: You seem to be approaching this problem as if people will say Ah! Stability issues! Right. Well, ok, here's what you need to know. If we knew of stability issues they would be fixed. Well, I know of one, but haven't had time to fix it yet,

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 03:52:55PM -0300, Ramiro Polla wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Al oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: Others report that they don't use Cygwin because of instablilities, especially in the server context. I've also been having instabilities in my server context

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:34:42PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: On 13/09/2010 17:35, Christopher Faylor wrote: You seem to be approaching this problem as if people will say Ah! Stability issues! Right. Well, ok, here's what you need to know. If we knew of stability issues they would be fixed.

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Tim Prince
On 9/13/2010 12:34 PM, Dave Korn wrote: Even when I submit make check-c make check-fortran and make check-c++ in separate windows, occasionally an instance of expect will hang and fail to time out, so has to be killed to complete the check. More often than not, it's possible to complete the

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Dave Korn
On 13/09/2010 20:23, Christopher Faylor wrote: You've included a patch here but, FYI, I have no idea why. FTR only. It might be useful to others following the list. cheers, DaveK -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ:

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Al
It depends on what is meant by become.  If it means will there be a concerted effort to harden Cygwin for a server then the answer is likely not unless someone pays for it. That points back to paying Red Hat for support. I think you use the term support in the wrong field. It is the

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:48:49PM +0200, Al wrote: It depends on what is meant by become. ?If it means will there be a concerted effort to harden Cygwin for a server then the answer is likely not unless someone pays for it. That points back to paying Red Hat for support. I think you use

Re: Cygwin instabilities

2010-09-13 Thread Al
Can't really parse that, especially given that I'm a developer and you're obviously not. lol Al -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: