Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-27 Thread D. Boland
Again, thanks for the input. I's now about three weeks later. I made all of my students re-install Apache in: /cygdrive/c/Apache2 and made them symlink this location on: /usr/local/apache For me, Achim Gratz's comment on the "Program Files" folder made perfect sense: >If you are operating as a

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-08 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, D. Boland! >> > I think I have new information on the stealing of ownership. Below test >> > has been >> > performed on the Apache folder, placed in the Windows Program Files folder >> > by the >> > Apache msi installer: >> > >> > "/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Apache Group/Apache2/

RE: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-08 Thread Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
> > If you are operating as a normal user on this folder, you aren't > > actually editing the files you think you see there, the whole contents > > is virtualized by UAC and redirected to your own personal copy on edit. While it does sound feasible, it does not explain the fact that the other edit

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-08 Thread D. Boland
Achim Gratz wrote: > > D. Boland writes: > > I think I have new information on the stealing of ownership. Below test has > > been > > performed on the Apache folder, placed in the Windows Program Files folder > > by the > > Apache msi installer: > > > > "/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Apache Gr

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-05 Thread Achim Gratz
D. Boland writes: > I think I have new information on the stealing of ownership. Below test has > been > performed on the Apache folder, placed in the Windows Program Files folder by > the > Apache msi installer: > > "/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Apache Group/Apache2/" > > But if I perform the

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-04 Thread D. Boland
Thanks for the input, guys. I think I have new information on the stealing of ownership. Below test has been performed on the Apache folder, placed in the Windows Program Files folder by the Apache msi installer: "/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Apache Group/Apache2/" But if I perform the same

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-04 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 11/4/2013 9:50 AM, Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C] wrote: Haha, yes. But if my students have to administer remote production-machines, most of the time they have no other option. I want them to succeed where others fail. Reading this thread, it looks like it digressed far away from the

RE: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-04 Thread Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
> > Haha, yes. But if my students have to administer remote > production-machines, most of the time they have no other option. I want them > to succeed where others fail. Reading this thread, it looks like it digressed far away from the original point ($subject) as to why "vi" did not keep the ori

RE: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-04 Thread Brian S. Wilson
> Haha, yes. But if my students have to administer remote production-machines, most of the time they have no other option. I want them to succeed where others fail. If this is the case, why not use the Apache instance available through Cygwin itself instead of implementing this Windows/Cygwin hybri

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-03 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, D. Boland! >> Your main problem is that you are trying to break into native Windows >> ACL system with Cygwin tools. And not only that, you also trying to >> wrest native ACLs into POSIX permissions, and expect native applications to >> work fine afterward. >> Which can be done theoreti

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-03 Thread D. Boland
Andrey Repin wrote: > > Greetings, D. Boland! > > Your main problem is that you are trying to break into native Windows > ACL system with Cygwin tools. And not only that, you also trying to > wrest native ACLs into POSIX permissions, and expect native applications to > work fine afterward. > Whic

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-02 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, D. Boland! > First, in my student-setup, Apache is not running under Cygwin. I used the > .msi distribution, available on the Apache website. This installs Apache as a > native Windows Service, and it can be configured using the Windows Services > Control Panel. > As to running as th

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-02 Thread D. Boland
"Brian S. Wilson" wrote: > > > I'm a Linux teacher at a school for vocational education in the > Netherlands. > > I use Cyqwin to help my students overcome their fear of the command line > by showing them their Windows systems through the eyes of Linux. > ... > > After a chgrp and chmod on the ent

Re: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-02 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Brian S. Wilson! >> I'm a Linux teacher at a school for vocational education in the Netherlands. >> I use Cyqwin to help my students overcome their fear of the command line by >> showing them their Windows systems through the eyes of Linux. > ... >> After a chgrp and chmod on the entire

RE: vi stealing SYSTEM-owned permissions and ownership

2013-11-02 Thread Brian S. Wilson
> I'm a Linux teacher at a school for vocational education in the Netherlands. > I use Cyqwin to help my students overcome their fear of the command line by showing them their Windows systems through the eyes of Linux. ... > After a chgrp and chmod on the entire Apache folder, the "conf" directory