Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-25 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
Thanx for the insightful thoughts Ken See more below > >>> all the std::filesystem implementations I've seen for Windows > >> > >> The implementation on top of Cygwin is not "for Windows", it's "for > >> Cygwin", i.e., "for Posix". And for Cygwin that's the right thing to > do. > >> And that's w

Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-25 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
> For the specific case C:\Temp, I found this: > > cygpath -ua 'C:\Temp' > >-> /cygdrive/c/Temp > > cygpath -ua /cygdrive/c/Temp > >-> /cygdrive/c/Temp > > cygpath -ua '\Temp' > >-> /cygdrive/c/Temp > > cygpath -ua '/Temp' > >-> /Temp > > Now Cygwin is open source, so you,

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Jonathan Yong via Cygwin
On 11/24/20 2:01 PM, sten.kristian.ivars...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] std::filesystem POSIX mode is common to all POSIX platforms where backslashes are NOT directory separators. How do you make them accept your demands? How are you going to force POSIX platforms allow Windows specific code? I'v

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Eliot Moss
For the specific case C:\Temp, I found this: cygpath -ua 'C:\Temp' -> /cygdrive/c/Temp cygpath -ua /cygdrive/c/Temp -> /cygdrive/c/Temp cygpath -ua '\Temp' -> /cygdrive/c/Temp cygpath -ua '/Temp' -> /Temp Now Cygwin is open source, so you, too, could grab the code in cygpath and c

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Ken Brown via Cygwin
On 11/24/2020 9:31 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: On 11/24/2020 4:32 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: all the std::filesystem implementations I've seen for Windows The implementation on top of Cygwin is not "for Windows", it's "for Cygwin", i.e., "for Posix". And for Cygwin t

Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
> On 11/24/2020 4:32 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: > > > all the std::filesystem implementations I've seen for Windows > > The implementation on top of Cygwin is not "for Windows", it's "for > Cygwin", i.e., "for Posix". And for Cygwin that's the right thing to do. > And that's where w

Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
> > [snip] > > > >> std::filesystem POSIX mode is common to all POSIX platforms where > >> backslashes are NOT directory separators. How do you make them accept > >> your demands? How are you going to force POSIX platforms allow > >> Windows specific code? > > > > I've been trying to say over and o

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Eliot Moss
On 11/24/2020 4:32 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: all the std::filesystem implementations I've seen for Windows The implementation on top of Cygwin is not "for Windows", it's "for Cygwin", i.e., "for Posix". And for Cygwin that's the right thing to do. And that's where we keep talk

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Jonathan Yong via Cygwin
On 11/24/20 11:35 AM, sten.kristian.ivars...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] std::filesystem POSIX mode is common to all POSIX platforms where backslashes are NOT directory separators. How do you make them accept your demands? How are you going to force POSIX platforms allow Windows specific code? I'

Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
[snip] > std::filesystem POSIX mode is common to all POSIX platforms where > backslashes are NOT directory separators. How do you make them accept your > demands? How are you going to force POSIX platforms allow Windows specific > code? I've been trying to say over and over again that our code do

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Jonathan Yong via Cygwin
On 11/24/20 9:32 AM, sten.kristian.ivars...@gmail.com wrote: That's not what Cygwin is for, you ignore everything while conveniently claiming to be looking for "insightful thoughts". You still haven't answered where is it in the POSIX standard requires backslashes to be used as separator or how

Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-24 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
> On 11/23/20 8:35 AM, sten.kristian.ivars...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On 11/20/20 8:31 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: > that, for me, /c works.) Likewise, I would expect the normative > path separator to be / not \, and an absolute path to start with /. > Windows offers sever

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-23 Thread Jonathan Yong via Cygwin
On 11/23/20 8:35 AM, sten.kristian.ivars...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/20/20 8:31 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: that, for me, /c works.) Likewise, I would expect the normative path separator to be / not \, and an absolute path to start with /. Windows offers several kinds of symlinks, wit

Re: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-20 Thread Jonathan Yong via Cygwin
On 11/20/20 8:31 AM, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: that, for me, /c works.) Likewise, I would expect the normative path separator to be / not \, and an absolute path to start with /. Windows offers several kinds of symlinks, with varying semantics, so the detailed behavior of that would b

Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-20 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
[snip] > > Applications might wanna extract type, name, parent-folder, etc but do > > rarely care about what kind of separator it has (/ or \) and the style > > of the root directory etc and it would be very neat if the cygwin > > std::filesystem-library became more agnostic in these regards > Not

Re: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-20 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2020-11-20 02:37, Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin wrote: [snip] As stated earlier, it seems like using mingw g++/libstdc++ (from the cygwin-package-manager) it seems like it works better, but then you can’t mix with other posix/cygwin mechanism (that uses cygstdc++) without breaking ODR (and p

Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-20 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
[snip] > >> As stated earlier, it seems like using mingw g++/libstdc++ (from the > >> cygwin-package-manager) it seems like it works better, but then you > >> can’t mix with other posix/cygwin mechanism (that uses cygstdc++) > >> without breaking ODR (and probably some memory models etc as well) so

Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem

2020-11-20 Thread Kristian Ivarsson via Cygwin
> Ok, first, I admit that I was not familiar with the details of > std::filesystem. However, after looking at it, I remain unsurprised that > the Cygwin and Mingw versions might be different. (I would also not be > surprised if there is a real bug in there.) At least semantic bugs considering th