Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
The following CVS commit, made by Thomas Dickey, has no indication that Thomas was either a) not involved at all in the patch or b) that Thomas found Ralf Habacker's patch and committed a modified version of that patch. The CVS log message says: fixes for _XtInherit on cygwin. The hw/xfree86

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > The following CVS commit, made by Thomas Dickey, has no indication that > Thomas was either a) not involved at all in the patch or b) that Thomas > found Ralf Habacker's patch and committed a modified version of that patch. > > The CVS log message say

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: The following CVS commit, made by Thomas Dickey, has no indication that Thomas was either a) not involved at all in the patch or b) that Thomas found Ralf Habacker's patch and committed a modified version of that patch. The CVS lo

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > Your commit didn't mention this either. > > Our change log is in our release notes, where the changes were > attributed to Ralf Habacker: tsk, tsk: the actual commit on the code change bears only your name. A casual reader of that commit (and of t

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Your commit didn't mention this either. Our change log is in our release notes, where the changes were attributed to Ralf Habacker: tsk, tsk: the actual commit on the code change bears only your name. A casual reader of that co

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > XFree86 should be taking care not to steal credit for our patches by > committing them without proper attribution. your standards are inconsistent: your committing the change rather than offering commit access to someone who solved a problem that (ac

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: XFree86 should be taking care not to steal credit for our patches by committing them without proper attribution. your standards are inconsistent: your committing the change rather than offering commit access to someone who solve

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > > > >>>Your commit didn't mention this either. > >> > >>Our change log is in our release notes, where the changes were > >>attributed to Ralf Habacker: > > > > > > tsk, tsk:

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Brian E. Gallew
Do you actually do anything useful? Or do you just steal other people's code and then act annoying (and childish) when someone calls you on it?

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Brian E. Gallew
Argh. That was supposed to go to our good friend Thomas Dickey. Somebody in Pittsburgh, PA stop by and slap me.

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Brian E. Gallew wrote: > Do you actually do anything useful? Or do you just steal other people's > code and then act annoying (and childish) when someone calls you on it? You can see for yourself what he does: http://invisible-island.net/ ftp://invisible-island.net/ Thomas

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Your commit didn't mention this either. Our change log is in our release notes, where the changes were attributed to Ralf Habacker: tsk, tsk: the actual comm

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Eric Anholt
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 11:32, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > XFree86 should be taking care not to steal credit for our patches by > > committing them without proper attribution. > > your standards are inconsistent: your committing the change rather than >

RE: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Armbrust, Daniel C.
er 23, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Proper attribution of patches On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > > > >>>Your commit didn't ment

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Put Ralf's name in the change log!!! you first. (hmm - that's an appropriate pun). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: > The only responsible thing for you to do would be to correct the > ChangeLog to attribute it to the patch's author. well that's polite enough. unlike Harold. no problem. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > No, that is not good enough. You should amend your change log entry to > attribute the patch to Ralf and you should apologize to the X community > at large for being so sloppy with attributing credit. yes, you're right. now I'll have to scrutinize

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Put Ralf's name in the change log!!! you first. Ralf's name is already in our change log, but our change log is not in CVS. I guess I need to show you that you actively took credit for the patch again: The hw/xfree86/CHANGELO

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: The only responsible thing for you to do would be to correct the ChangeLog to attribute it to the patch's author. well that's polite enough. unlike Harold. I have not been rude in this discussion. I have repeatedly asked you to attr

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 02:02:20PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > The following CVS commit, made by Thomas Dickey, has no indication that > > Thomas was either a) not involved at all in the patch or b) that Thomas > > found Ralf Habacker's patch an

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: No, that is not good enough. You should amend your change log entry to attribute the patch to Ralf and you should apologize to the X community at large for being so sloppy with attributing credit. yes, you're right. Thanks. n

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Alan Hourihane wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 02:02:20PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: The following CVS commit, made by Thomas Dickey, has no indication that Thomas was either a) not involved at all in the patch or b) that Thomas found Ralf Habacker's

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote: > Thomas, > > If you did get this code directly from Cygwin/X's tree then I'd of > expected at least the credit to be apportioned to Harold at the very > least, rather than putting your name against it. Ralf's name could have > been corrected later, with

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: > > > > > >>The only responsible thing for you to do would be to correct the > >>ChangeLog to attribute it to the patch's author. > > > > > > well that's polite enough. > > unlike Haro

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote: Thomas, If you did get this code directly from Cygwin/X's tree then I'd of expected at least the credit to be apportioned to Harold at the very least, rather than putting your name against it. Ralf's name could have been corrected

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: The only responsible thing for you to do would be to correct the ChangeLog to attribute it to the patch's author. well that's polite enough. unlike Harold. I have

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: > I see only minor inconsitency on his part, that the original commit of > that code didn't attribute it to its author in the CVS logs, while at > least some other commits do note authors of patches. However, he didn't > explicitly take credit for it, like

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: [snip] announcement of new packages with those changes reflects the author correctly. I don't see Harold Hunt asking for his name to be on the patch in any way, only the patch's author's name (the "members of the Cygwin/X community" i

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>been corrected later, with a follow email from Harold. > >> > >>It's a simple change to put that right in the CHANGELOG. So I'll do that. > > > > > > I had that on my next set of commits. > > Then why not say so earlier? There was no point in doing

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: a lot of words. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: been corrected later, with a follow email from Harold. It's a simple change to put that right in the CHANGELOG. So I'll do that. I had that on my next set of commits. Then why not say so earlier? There was no point in doing s

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: a lot of words. The modus operandi of Thomas Dickey: 1) Stick head in sand 2) ??? Harold

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Sure there was: you would not have exposed yourself as a hypocrite by > doing exactly that which you denounce on your home page (pointed out by > Daniel Armburst). You lambast those "egotistical plagiarists" that yes, I can imagine that you admire t

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 05:34:46PM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: >On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>Sure there was: you would not have exposed yourself as a hypocrite by >>doing exactly that which you denounce on your home page (pointed out by >>Daniel Armburst). You lambast those "egot

RE: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Armbrust, Daniel C. wrote: I've seen your postings before, and have no use for your opinions. (that seems to be a common trait of Harold's friends - I don't have to address each one of them). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net

Re: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Harold L Hunt II
David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 01:25:52PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: The following CVS commit, made by Thomas Dickey, has no indication that Thomas was either a) not involved at all in the patch or b) that Thomas found Ralf Habacker's patch and committed a modified version of th

RE: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Armbrust, Daniel C.
IL PROTECTED] Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Proper attribution of patches On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Armbrust, Daniel C. wrote: I've seen your postings before, and have no use for your opinions. (that seems to be a common trait of Harold's friends - I don't have to addre

RE: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Alec Mihailovs
http://webpages.shepherd.edu/amihailo/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Thomas Dickey > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Proper attribution

RE: Proper attribution of patches

2003-12-23 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Alec Mihailovs wrote: > I didn't follow all of the discussion and I am not a friend > of Harold, but I would be happy to become his friend in the > future. Harold seems to be a really nice guy spending his > free time on the Cygwin X development. Agreed. > Dickey seems to be