convict labor issue

2000-02-11 Thread Lupe Trevino
I am in dire need of a VHS video on the convict labor issue. I am teaching a class on the topic in 2 weeks. I am willing to pay for it if I have to. The tape should not exceed 45 mins. I may be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: the power of cryptography

2000-02-11 Thread Tim May
At 4:30 PM -0800 2/11/00, Matthew Gream wrote: >If you were to read the sentence that follows the one you quoted, you would >find that I say "however, until such time" to acknowledge two things. >Firstly, that an ideal society takes time to reach (if at all reachable), >and secondly, that when a

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Lizard
At 12:14 AM 2/12/00 -0500, Matthew Gaylor wrote: >Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Anyone interested in this topic should read Peter Huber's book "Orwells >>Revenge". Unfortunately, his site seems to have been dropped down the >>memory hole. :) > >It's still available on Peter's web site locat

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Matthew Gaylor
Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyone interested in this topic should read Peter Huber's book "Orwells >Revenge". Unfortunately, his site seems to have been dropped down the >memory hole. :) It's still available on Peter's web site located at: http://phuber.com/huber/orwell/orwells.html R

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Lizard
At 11:52 PM 2/11/00 -0500, Matthew Gaylor wrote: >And as most of us already know, most every London intersection and >most major destinations are already under camera surveillance. >Society is going to change with these technologies. Privacy and >anonymity can no longer be taken for granted.

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Matthew Gaylor
Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Two things:I have read David Brins arguments. I despise them. >Unfortunately, I also can't refute them. :) It's annoying to be confronted >with something you really don't like but also can't logically deny. I agree. The surveillance state is coming whether we

"Woody" or Patricia Woodruff on cypherpunks list?

2000-02-11 Thread Stanton McCandlish
Is there a "Woody" Woodruff or Patricia Woodruff on this mailing list? For some reason I got two pices (one per name) of misdirected snail mail for you, addressed like: Patricia Woodruff Cypherpunks 1550 Bryant St. #725\___ my work address San Francisco CA 94103 / This is incredibly, ama

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Lizard
At 10:34 AM 2/11/00 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: >I'm sure that a lot of people are going to respond, >but since when has that ever stopped me? :-) > >Peter > > >> -- >> From:Lizard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> Can anyone tell me, precisely, why it is so very scary to imagine that

One more thing on privacy...

2000-02-11 Thread Lizard
The full archives of f-c, including a lot of personal chit-char, foul language, and other such stuff, ARE available online. It would be a TRIVIAL matter to search them and learn a whole lot about any random person, if someone was so inclined. Ditto Deja News. If it goes back far enough, you'll s

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Lizard
At 05:00 PM 2/11/00 -0800, Colin A. Reed wrote: >Actually, the problems you suggest here could actually be seen as good >things. A lot of these, such as the negative conotations of sexuality >are functions of seriously disfunctional societies, families, and >individuals. Forcing the dirty la

Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Lizard
At 12:47 PM 2/11/00 -0800, Glenn Hauman wrote: >Going on: you tend to shop and eat in the more, shall we say, flamboyant parts of Greenwich Village. (Don't try and deny it-- I have records of your dinner exploits while you were in NYC. Every Thursday night, with a bunch of "free thinkers". Obvio

Re: Good Christ!

2000-02-11 Thread John Young
The story that's intriguing is that the cyber-attacks are the work of the dark side of NSA, the ones opposed to the new DIRNSA's housecleaning and deadwood chopping. A warning No. 3 after the brownout of the intel sat receiving stations (No. 1) and the computer meltdown (No. 2). Civilians Barba

Re: Stephenson's Samoleans?

2000-02-11 Thread David Kane-Parry
dmolnar wrote: > http://kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu/~kamikaze/documents/simoleon.html > > Originally appeared in the back of a Time special issue on Cyberspace, I > think. If not in a dead-tree version, then an online special. There is a note that reads: I've reformatted this file properly,

Re: Procmail recipe for CDR nodes

2000-02-11 Thread Bill O'Hanlon
I screwed up when I sent the following -- Jim's procmail recipe works fine the way it is. If you see one and only one copy of this message, then my new CDR node should be fully working. Send subscriptions (and "unsuscrives"!) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the confusion. -Bill -- Bill O'Hanl

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Colin A. Reed
Actually, the problems you suggest here could actually be seen as good things. A lot of these, such as the negative conotations of sexuality are functions of seriously disfunctional societies, families, and individuals. Forcing the dirty laundry into the open could improve the debates on th

Re: Re: Nietzsche as the Gîdel of Philosophy

2000-02-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:32 PM +0100 on 2/10/00, tucker wrote: > I am old enough to remember during the 60`s the conservative and rightwing > politicians > and others used to call academics and intellectuals pointy heads. Pointy head. :-). Cheers, RAH - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Under

Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread William H. Geiger III
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/11/00 at 12:58 AM, Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The Congressional members of this new caucus generally are not known for >their opposition to recent government invasions of privacy, and bills >they have championed would rob us of our most cheris

RE: the power of cryptography

2000-02-11 Thread Matthew Gream
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > This whole "until we reach perfection" line of reasoning is pernicious. > > As David Honig noted in his response, even in "ideal" societies > people want > privacy. > > In particular, an ideal society will still involve competition, both > personal

Re: Stephenson's Samoleans?

2000-02-11 Thread dmolnar
On 11 Feb 2000, Azerty wrote: > > >Truth be know, the closest thing I've seen to that was Stephenson's > >wonderful short story "Samoleans". But I think the surfacting > >effect extends beyond the obvious boundries of digital, anonymous, > >gold/opium/whatever cash... > > Where can this s

Stephenson's Samoleans?

2000-02-11 Thread Azerty
>Truth be know, the closest thing I've seen to that was Stephenson's >wonderful short story "Samoleans". But I think the surfacting >effect extends beyond the obvious boundries of digital, anonymous, >gold/opium/whatever cash... Where can this short story be found?

Re: Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Danial
Well I think that the collection of information about someone has to start somewhere. When and where does it stop. It's not the current data collection that scares me it's what they will collect in the future. What happens when they see that the information they collected gets them alot more inco

Re: Nietzsche as the Gîdel of Philosophy

2000-02-11 Thread tucker
What is mental masturbation anyway? I don`t know if I am really getting a frousy odour of anti-intellectualism and cyncism here- in this" psychobabble" and so-call "mental masturbation" sarcasm coming from R.A.Hettinga-whose seems to have taken a gleeful delight in trying to beat down the life o

Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Faust
It's not any of the little individual facts. It's the bigger picture that they eventually provide. It's also not the information they're collecting, it's the amount of it. Eventually the feeling is that your every move is being tracked. Thus said Lizard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Thu, Feb 10, 20

ADV: Search Engine Registration

2000-02-11 Thread mike
Removal instructions below. I saw your listing on the internet. I work for a company that specializes in getting clients web sites listed as close to the top of the major search engines as possible. Our fee is only $29.95 per month to submit your site at least twice a month to over 350 searc

Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Glenn Hauman
At 10:23 PM -0800 2/10/00, Lizard wrote: >Can anyone tell me, precisely, why it is so very scary to imagine that >somewhere in a corporate database is a notation that you like to buy Coca >Cola? Corporations don't scare me -- they want me to be alive, free, and >earning money so that I can buy th

Re: the power of cryptography

2000-02-11 Thread Tim May
At 3:49 AM -0800 2/11/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Manifesto? > >The continuing struggle for individual liberties and freedoms is ever the >struggle for the power of communication. The primal man and the wall, the >sculptor and the veneration, the peacemaker and the prophecy, or the >tyrant and

Yahoo Attack

2000-02-11 Thread Stephanie Trimble
I don't know that much about a DOS attack, but from what I've heard, I understand that it makes it appear that there are a bunch of people viewing that particular site, so the web server serves a bunch of web pages, so that it overloads the server.  The server can't handle it and therefore c

RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread Trei, Peter
I'm sure that a lot of people are going to respond, but since when has that ever stopped me? :-) Peter > -- > From: Lizard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Can anyone tell me, precisely, why it is so very scary to imagine that > somewhere in a corporate database is a notation that

Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus

2000-02-11 Thread David Honig
At 01:28 AM 2/11/00 -0500, Lizard wrote: >Can anyone tell me, precisely, why it is so very scary to imagine that >somewhere in a corporate database is a notation that you like to buy Coca >Cola? Corporations don't scare me -- they want me to be alive, free, and >earning money so that I can buy th

Re: the power of cryptography

2000-02-11 Thread David Honig
At 06:58 AM 2/11/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >If ever there was the ideal society, >then such little call would there be for these devices of confusion. Wrong. Even in Galt's Gulch, you still want privacy, against accidental disclosure, for instance. And entities are free to intercept

Re: Interesting situations with the law in south africa

2000-02-11 Thread David Honig
At 07:27 AM 2/11/00 -0500, Andrew Alston wrote: >Im interested in getting comment from the cypherpunks list on what follows. > >Rumour has it that there is currently a law busy being built and formed, and Put trigger locks on socket calls. Add fingerprint sensors to compilers. (And register yac

Muscat, Oman Ministry of Telecommunications security conf

2000-02-11 Thread Declan McCullagh
related to our recent discussions... >Dear Sir/Madam > >In partnership with Omantel and Oman's Ministry of Telecommunications we >are organizing a one-day international conference on Internet Security >at the Seeb Novotel, Muscat, Oman. We would like to speak to somebody at >Wired about this e

Interesting situations with the law in south africa

2000-02-11 Thread Andrew Alston
Im interested in getting comment from the cypherpunks list on what follows. Rumour has it that there is currently a law busy being built and formed, and again, I stress this is still rumour but I have fairly good sources who are holding by this, so Im inclined to believe it, that will basically

the power of cryptography

2000-02-11 Thread matthew . gream
Manifesto? The continuing struggle for individual liberties and freedoms is ever the struggle for the power of communication. The primal man and the wall, the sculptor and the veneration, the peacemaker and the prophecy, or the tyrant and the world. The individual seeths against society, a s

The Game of M .... a simple crypto system

2000-02-11 Thread M
Well, here is just one simple example ... this is just a simple application, but can work in many practical situations. You can use my newsletters at http://home.earthlink.net/~mjsion/isbn.htm You can have your database and assign codes (such as numbers or any other characters easily to be