Re: Close Elections and Causality

2000-11-12 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 12:38 + 11/10/00, Ken Brown wrote: But are there no rules in Florida allowing for a re-vote? If there really are 19,000 spoiled papers from once county, that sounds "massive" to me. It may not be fraud - the fools who designed the papers probably thought they were doing right - but it has

Re: Democrats are arguing for statistical sampling voting

2000-11-12 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 17:52 -0800 11/9/00, Tim May wrote: At 8:55 PM -0500 11/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results and assign electors accordingly. Or perhaps one household per

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-27 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 21:56 -0700 10/25/00, Nathan Saper wrote: I don't think your Hitler example applies, because he could not prove that the Jews were causing pain. In any case, my formulation of act utilitarianism seems to suffer from those sorts of attacks less than the normal formulation, and I have yet to

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 01:17 -0400 9/19/00, Jodi Hoffman wrote: Kevin Elliott wrote: Read the stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de. Here's a little something else I picked up from the same stupid website (you know...the one you say only promotes sex between teenagers and adults...) My god! Did

Re: would it be so much to ask..

2000-09-19 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 12:43 -0400 9/19/00, Asymmetric wrote: Actually asshole, there are plenty of anonymous remailers that DO let you reply to the originator. In case you're just a bit wet behind the ears yet and hadn't heard, a while back there was a big problem with one of them when the government ordered

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-18 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 00:08 -0400 9/19/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betweens teenagers and adults?! You must have been perusing a NAMBLA website from another world. I'm sorry but you seem to be the one in another world. Read the stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de. -- Kevin "The Cubbie"

Re: John Young, the PSIA, and Aum

2000-07-25 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 22:11 -1000 7/24/00, Reese wrote: At 10:00 PM 24/07/00 -0700, Kevin Elliott wrote: At 04:26 PM 24/07/00 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: US law currently forbids US citizens from engaging militarily in their own foreign policy, the way many Americans did during the Spanish Civil War (joining either

Re: Re: John Young, the PSIA, and Aum

2000-07-24 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 18:43 -1000 7/23/00, Reese wrote: At 08:51 PM 23/07/00 -0700, Kevin Elliott wrote: And membership in any or all of those organizations should positively not be a crime. What's your point? Lost, in the fireworks. That the Japanese gov't oppressing its citizenry is NOT a cause celeb

Re: Re: Jim Und Dave?

2000-07-24 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 00:04 -0700 7/24/00, Tim May wrote: At 9:27 PM -0400 7/23/00, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote: My point, though, is a simple one: What is good and what is bad does not depend on majority vote. For instance, I'd say

Re: John Young, the PSIA, and Aum

2000-07-23 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 18:44 -0700 7/21/00, Kristen Tsolis wrote: The PSIA has been called an agency without a cause. The Agency was formed in 1952 to keep track of communist activity in Japan, but it seemingly has had little utility and has been accused of keeping too close of a watch on Japanese citizens. In 1997,

Re: John Young, the PSIA, and Aum

2000-07-23 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 11:08 -1000 7/22/00, Reese wrote: At 06:44 PM 21/07/00 -0700, Kristen Tsolis wrote: snip of long, carefully read address on Aum Shinrikyo and PSIA But that does not necessarily warrant the wide-scale surveillance of all Aum members or the activities of the PSIA. I don't want to sound

Re: Re: John Young, the PSIA, and Aum

2000-07-23 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 18:41 -1000 7/22/00, Reese wrote: All, as in _ALL_ members, past and present, or just present? That wasn't exactly clear, now that you say "*all*". Backing them into a corner is exactly what should be done, if they refuse to renounce the past actions and their association with the Aum

Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-18 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 08:27 +0200 7/18/00, Tom Vogt wrote: I maintain that the owners have given up their personal rights in exchange for government-created corporate rights. as long as the government is stable, that is usually a good deal. Ahhh, but that, as they say, is not how the game is played. You don't

Re: ZKS: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-12 Thread Kevin Elliott
try to remember to do that in the future. At 1:31 AM -0400 7/12/00, dmolnar wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote: least in the case of ZKS, I've never heard of Privada) are publicly known, and considered strong by most, if not all, cryptographers. The algorithms are publically

Re: ZKS: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-11 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 14:47 -0800 7/10/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could somebody on cypherpunks please explain to me what the whole point behind companies like Privada and ZKS really is? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your just ignorant and looking for an education, not obnoxious and