Re: flexthismotherfucker

2016-09-15 Thread Mirimir
On 09/16/2016 12:22 AM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:59:22 -0600 > Mirimir wrote: > > >> >>> And it also just so happens that schneie (who you said is a >>> 'good guy'?) is parroting war propaganda about china? >> >> I made that comment before reading Schneier's piece. Is he a "

Re: flexthismotherfucker

2016-09-15 Thread juan
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:59:22 -0600 Mirimir wrote: > > > And it also just so happens that schneie (who you said is a > > 'good guy'?) is parroting war propaganda about china? > > I made that comment before reading Schneier's piece. Is he a "good > guy"? I have no clue. He's quite cleve

The Common Law - Framing - Moral foundations

2016-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
An extract from the Annotated Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia, at §326.8(2).8 (Annotation 326, paragraph 8): "Chancellor Kent does not regard the total denial of a common law jurisdiction in criminal cases as based upon satisfactory principles; and he cites with approval Du Ponceau’s

Re: flexthismotherfucker

2016-09-15 Thread Mirimir
On 09/15/2016 02:35 PM, juan wrote: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:31:37 -0600 > Mirimir wrote: > >> It's the >> fucking Chinese that seem to beat at every SSH server that I >> run :( > > > Go figure. So it just so happens that oceania is at war with > eastasia? Or was it eurasia? All wa

Re: Legal vs lawful vs moral; legally sanctioned yet immoral

2016-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 01:38:51PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > So, an appeal to "common law" that has any usefulness must cite some > legal authority, ideally a mandatory controlling legal authority. There you go again. A citation may help in a legal proceeding. But "common law" as in "t

Re: Legal vs lawful vs moral; legally sanctioned yet immoral

2016-09-15 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/15/16 2:23 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 01:36:18AM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 9/15/16 1:12 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:20:31PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: On 9/14/16 8:34 PM, grarpamp wrote: > Leaking paper is on

Re: flexthismotherfucker

2016-09-15 Thread juan
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:31:37 -0600 Mirimir wrote: > It's the > fucking Chinese that seem to beat at every SSH server that I > run :( Go figure. So it just so happens that oceania is at war with eastasia? Or was it eurasia? And it also just so happens that schneie (who y

Re: Fucking comedy of old white guy parasites [Bruce Schneier's blog]

2016-09-15 Thread juan
On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:49:39 +0300 Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:25:56PM +0300, Cari Machet wrote: > > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html > > lol, Russia and China. Did he miss the Norks? Come on guys. Schneier is one of 'us' - he'

Re: Coalition Seeks Obama to Pardon Snowden

2016-09-15 Thread Razer
"@benwizner, Snowden’s attorney, says if he came back to the US “he would be reporting for sentencing not for trial" B/c Espionage Act has no juried trial (more) and it's unacceptable... Demanding pardon (Still sticking to my 'dead in a ditch a few years later' theory) Video @CNN tweet: https://

US2Hakrz: 'We're coming for you once we figure out who you are' [Was: Re: Fucking comedy of old white guy parasites [Bruce Schneier's blog]]

2016-09-15 Thread Razer
Whoever did this, U.S. says of latest hacks, we’re coming after you With linkage @ Mcclatchy http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article101838132.html By Tim Johnson mcclatchydc.com Top White House and Justice Department officials asked for patience from the public Wednesday as

Re: Fucking comedy of old white guy parasites [Bruce Schneier's blog]

2016-09-15 Thread Dan White
On 09/15/16 13:49 +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:25:56PM +0300, Cari Machet wrote: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html lol, Russia and China. Did he miss the Norks? Also where the resources and bandwidth come from, there is no mention

Re: Cultural Marxism – Social Chaos

2016-09-15 Thread John Newman
-- John > On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Александр wrote: > > 2016-09-14 19:57 GMT+03:00 John Newman : >> I think Zen is doing an impression of a paid Russian troll living in St >> Petersburg and clocking in at the troll factory to spit out 10k words a day >> at CP ;) >> >> Or maybe it's

Re: Fucking comedy of old white guy parasites [Bruce Schneier's blog]

2016-09-15 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:25:56PM +0300, Cari Machet wrote: > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html lol, Russia and China. Did he miss the Norks? Also where the resources and bandwidth come from, there is no mention of it, especially botnets. Long ago someone claime

Re: Legal vs lawful vs moral; legally sanctioned yet immoral

2016-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 01:36:18AM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/15/16 1:12 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:20:31PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> On 9/14/16 8:34 PM, grarpamp wrote: > >>> Leaking paper is one thing, disassembling the quiet > >>> handsha

Re: Legal vs lawful vs moral; legally sanctioned yet immoral

2016-09-15 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2016-09-15 at 01:36 -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/15/16 1:12 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:20:31PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > > > On 9/14/16 8:34 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > > > Leaking paper is one thing, disassembling the quiet > > > > handsh

Re: Legal vs lawful vs moral; legally sanctioned yet immoral

2016-09-15 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/15/16 1:12 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:20:31PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 9/14/16 8:34 PM, grarpamp wrote: >>> Leaking paper is one thing, disassembling the quiet >>> handshakes and luncheons of conspiracy is another. >> Much of what corporations do is

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:51:28AM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/15/16 12:01 AM, juan wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:45:31 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > >> On 9/14/16 11:11 PM, oshwm wrote: > >>> Unless the peoples minds can be 'reprogrammed' then those of us > >>> sub

Legal vs lawful vs moral; legally sanctioned yet immoral

2016-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:20:31PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/14/16 8:34 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > Leaking paper is one thing, disassembling the quiet > > handshakes and luncheons of conspiracy is another. > > Much of what corporations do is legal, whether you like it or not. Legal, a

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-15 Thread oshwm
V for Vendetta has a fairly 'underground-ish' following in UK. Although I think most of those that have watched it have simply written it off as an amusing tale about a near future that would never happen as our gov woyldn't ever get that bad :) In terms of things such as self-defence, the gov

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:11:19AM +0100, oshwm wrote: > The UK Gov has spent two generations indoctrinating people right from > birth that privacy is only for bad people, big corporations will look > after them, gov dependency is a good thing, debt is a good thing, > politics is of no interest and

Re: UK: Censors, Tracks and Balkanizes Its Internet; 10yrs for Pirates

2016-09-15 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/15/16 12:01 AM, juan wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:45:31 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> On 9/14/16 11:11 PM, oshwm wrote: >>> Unless the peoples minds can be 'reprogrammed' then those of us >>> subversive types who have somehow avoided being brainwashed will >>> become criminals