Original message From: grarpamp Date:
12/24/17 10:15 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpu...@cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
That billions of people worldwide still worship and follow
religions... that declare exclusivity over / against all others
and their
That billions of people worldwide still worship and follow
religions... that declare exclusivity over / against all others
and their people, indoctrinate malleable children trapped in
the home and school from birth, authorize taxation slavery
rape murder both within and external for their own benef
ge From: Sandal Snare Date:
12/21/17 3:16 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org,
g...@riseup.net Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
> g2s g2s at ri̇́seup.net
> Sat Dec 16 14:08:17 PST 2017
> Ennio was confused.
Was he.
I included an image that I think is r
Ennio was confused.
Original message From: Did You Know Date:
12/16/17 12:28 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org,
catskillmar...@gmail.com Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
> Marina Brown catskillmarina at gmail.com
> Wed Dec 13 20:09:38 PS
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:08:21PM -0500, Marina Brown wrote:
> Seriously, fuck nazis !
Well, that could actually solve the Western demographics
problem…
> Marina Brown catskillmarina at gmail.com
> Wed Dec 13 20:09:38 PST 2017
>
> nazi
>
By "nazi" she means Europeans who vote against their own interests.
> block [them]
>
By "block" she means "add to the gas list".
"There are two kinds of fascists:
fascists and anti-fascists."
- Ennio Flaiano
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 10:13:56 -0800
g2s wrote:
>
> Common internet troll. To the junkfile with you bye
lol, rayzer, 'we' all know that you are an anti-libertarian
piece of shit whose only purpose in this list is...get
this...trolling.
you know that 'cypherpunk
Common internet troll. To the junkfile with you bye
Rr
null
Welp. Your hatred of 'jooKkkristians' feeds the ovens, stupid.
Rt
Original message From: juan Date:
12/15/17 11:36 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cp Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:34:14 -0500
John Newman wrote:
>
>
> I ha
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 08:58:54AM -0800, g2s wrote:
> >> Haha :) Happy hannukah lol.
>
> So juan's a Nazi. No surprise there. Only a Nazi or someone whose seriously
> deranged could spew that kind of vitriol.
> Ps. Today in Palestine:
> https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/9417066388717690
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 04:36:49PM -0300, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:34:14 -0500
> John Newman wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I have no reply to this.
>
> I know =)
>
> > You just made all my points,
>
> you don't have any points =)
My point is you're a bigoted ass. Point mad
I have no reply to this. You just made all my points, and
your confused views, clear - or as clear as this line of
thought would ever go. And to answer your one cogent
question: of course American atrocities are fucking
horrible. How that makes Nazi atrocities acceptable is
beyond me (unless yo
Original garbage from
juan Date: 12/15/17 9:05 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cp
Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
[Redacted]
I know Aryan nation scumbags who would agree with that. Keep digging that hole
guy.
Original message From: John Newman Date:
12/14/17 7:01 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org, juan
, cp Subject: Re: Bitcoin...
Destroying the planet
On December 14, 2017 9:47:59 PM EST, juan wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 21:20:04 -0500
>John Newman
On December 14, 2017 9:47:59 PM EST, juan wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 21:20:04 -0500
>John Newman wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On December 14, 2017 7:15:42 PM EST, juan wrote:
>> >On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:01:50 -0500
>> >John Newman wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> What’s the point in calling Razer a “joo”
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 21:20:04 -0500
John Newman wrote:
>
>
> On December 14, 2017 7:15:42 PM EST, juan wrote:
> >On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:01:50 -0500
> >John Newman wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> What’s the point in calling Razer a “joo”? He doesn’t call you a
> >> beaner. Is he even a practicing Jew
On December 14, 2017 7:15:42 PM EST, juan wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:01:50 -0500
>John Newman wrote:
>
>
>>
>> What’s the point in calling Razer a “joo”? He doesn’t call you a
>> beaner. Is he even a practicing Jew? Does it even matter (answer is
>> no)? It’s such a lazy, inarticulate expr
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:01:50 -0500
John Newman wrote:
>
> What’s the point in calling Razer a “joo”? He doesn’t call you a
> beaner. Is he even a practicing Jew? Does it even matter (answer is
> no)? It’s such a lazy, inarticulate expression, it makes you sound
> exactly like racist trash.
On 12/13/2017 10:01 PM, John Newman wrote:
>
>
>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:26 PM, juan wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:10:32 -0800
>> g2s wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>we are still waiting for you to show that you able to
>>> calculate Blah blah... From that ars technical link
>>
>>> However, we can
On 12/13/2017 10:01 PM, John Newman wrote:
>
>
>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:26 PM, juan wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:10:32 -0800
>> g2s wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>we are still waiting for you to show that you able to
>>> calculate Blah blah... From that ars technical link
>>
>>> However, we can
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:01:50PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:26 PM, juan wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:10:32 -0800
> > g2s wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>we are still waiting for you to show that you able to
> >> calculate Blah blah... From that ars technic
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:26 PM, juan wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:10:32 -0800
> g2s wrote:
>
>
>>
>>we are still waiting for you to show that you able to
>> calculate Blah blah... From that ars technical link
>
>> However, we can make some educated guesses. For starters, we know the
All: Quit fucking top posting and bulk quoting reams of useless shit.
MB:
> Correct me if i am wrong but won't energy for bitcoin mining drop soon
> as we get to the end of the blockchain ?
"The blockchain" has no specified "end". For BTC, you are meaning
after all 21M coins worth of block reward
2/9/17 2:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
>>> Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 2:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Michael Nelson
>>>> wrote:
>>
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Kurt Buff wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:10 PM, g2s wrote:
>>
>> Original message
>> From: Kurt Buff
>> Date: 12/9/17 2:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
>> Subject:
Original message From: George Larson
Date: 12/11/17 7:45 AM (GMT-08:00) To: g2s
Cc: Michael Nelson ,
cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
> bitcoin generates huge amounts of pollution due to its electric demands
"The physical
2/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
>
> > The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point...
>
> Not if the point is a dead planet.
>
> That's ALL I care about. Cars, which you mention, are
Original message From: Kurt Buff Date:
12/10/17 9:33 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:10 PM, g2s wrote:
>
> Original message
> From: Kurt Buff
> Date: 12/
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:10 PM, g2s wrote:
>
> Original message
> From: Kurt Buff
> Date: 12/9/17 2:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 2:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:50:16 -0800
Kurt Buff wrote:
> Bitcoin is produced in relation to other economic goods, and under the
> constraints of the costs of energy and computer infrastructure. If
> those costs go up, production of bitcoin goes does, and if other
> economic goods become more valuable
Original message From: Kurt Buff Date:
12/9/17 2:50 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 2:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Michael Nelson
> wrote:
>>
&g
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 2:24 PM, z9wahqvh wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Michael Nelson
> wrote:
>>
>> The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point, from the
>> point of view of understanding the system. The correct mapping is between
>> Bitcoin and the *price* of energy.
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Michael Nelson
wrote:
> The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point, from the
> point of view of understanding the system. The correct mapping is between
> Bitcoin and the *price* of energy.
>
> If electricity were 10 times as expensive, Bitcoin min
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:57 AM, g2s wrote:
> Original message
> From: Kurt Buff
> Date: 12/9/17 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:24 AM, g2s wrote:
> >
Original message From: Kurt Buff Date:
12/9/17 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:24 AM, g2s wrote:
> Original message
> From: Kurt Buff
> Date: 12/8/1
Original message From: juan Date: 12/9/17
8:13 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Bitcoin...
Destroying the planet
On Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:31:27 -0800
g2s wrote:
>
> Original message From: Michael Nelson
> Date: 12/8/17
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 7:24 AM, g2s wrote:
> Original message
> From: Kurt Buff
> Date: 12/8/17 8:42 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
>
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:31 PM, g2s wrote:
>
On Fri, 08 Dec 2017 19:31:27 -0800
g2s wrote:
>
> Original message From: Michael Nelson
> Date: 12/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00) To:
> cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the
> planet
> > The mapping between Bitcoin and energy
Original message From: Green Peas
Date: 12/9/17 1:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org,
g...@riseup.net Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
> g2s g2s at riseup.net
> Fri Dec 8 19:31:27 PST 2017
>
> dead planet
> "muh global warming
Original message From: Kurt Buff Date:
12/8/17 8:42 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:31 PM, g2s wrote:
>
> Original message
> From: Michael Nelson
> Date:
> Michael Nelson nelson_mikel at yahoo.com
> Fri Dec 8 18:22:28 PST 2017
>
> Whereas an automobile still uses the same
> amount of fuel to get you from A to B,
> when you raise the price of fuel, Bitcoin
> instantly drops the amount of fuel it uses,
> but continues to function just as well.
>
W
> g2s g2s at riseup.net
> Fri Dec 8 19:31:27 PST 2017
>
> dead planet
> "muh global warming"
>
You can't kill the planet.
The planet kills us.
> carbon based pollution
>
You stupid motherfucker.
Trees breath carbon dioxide and filter out the carbon. Increases in
carbon gas emission increase
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 7:31 PM, g2s wrote:
>
> Original message
> From: Michael Nelson
> Date: 12/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> Subject: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
>
>> The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is m
Original message From: Michael Nelson
Date: 12/8/17 6:22 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
> The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point...
Not if the point is a dead planet.
That's ALL I ca
The mapping between Bitcoin and energy is missing the point, from the point of
view of understanding the system. The correct mapping is between Bitcoin and
the *price* of energy.
If electricity were 10 times as expensive, Bitcoin mining use of electric power
would drop by a factor of 10 (for a g
Ps. https://twitter.com/vexmark/status/938780120990568448
Original message From: g2s Date: 12/8/17
3:12 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Cc: cypherpunks
Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
Original message From: Steven Schear
Original message From: Steven Schear
Date: 12/8/17 10:49 AM (GMT-08:00) To: juan Cc:
cypherpunks Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying
the planet
In #meetoo fashion the flippening is going to happen this week when drudge news
shows a bitcoin core developer get accused of
On 12/08/2017 01:39 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 07:29 AM, Temple OS User wrote:
>>> g2s g2s at wiseup.net
>>> Thu Dec 7 12:05:26 PST 2017
>>>
>>
>>> bitcoin network uses electricity
>>> In 18 months, we'll all be dead.
>>> "muh planet"
>>>
>>
>> You faggot.
>
> Ah, I see. Another fucking Ze
In #meetoo fashion the flippening is going to happen this week when drudge
news shows a bitcoin core developer get accused of grabbing an interns
breast, and everyone dumps BTC.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:45 PM, juan wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:12:41 -0800
> Steven Schear wrote:
>
>
> > Bitcoi
On 12/08/2017 07:29 AM, Temple OS User wrote:
>> g2s g2s at wiseup.net
>> Thu Dec 7 12:05:26 PST 2017
>>
>
>> bitcoin network uses electricity
>> In 18 months, we'll all be dead.
>> "muh planet"
>>
>
> You faggot.
Ah, I see. Another fucking Zenaan or Juan clone. Bye.
> Using electricity isn't g
conclusion : trolling piece of shit rayzer doesn't know how to
calculate energy consumption from hashrate and just posts
garbage he reads on the interweb
Scumbag wrote
> Do you even know what that means?
Yep. I also know it matters no fucks if you measured it in Joules... scumbag.
Rr
>
> we are still waiting for you to show that you able to
> calculate Blah blah... From that ars technical link
> However, we can make some educated guesses
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:10:32 -0800
g2s wrote:
>
> we are still waiting for you to show that you able to
> calculate Blah blah... From that ars technical link
> However, we can make some educated guesses. For starters, we know the
> industry's revenue: Bitcoin miners currently generate 75
Original message From: juan Date: 12/7/17
5:08 PM (GMT-08:00) To: g2s Subject: Re: Bitcoin...
Destroying the planet
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:58:22 -0800
g2s wrote:
>
> The scumbag said
we are still waiting for you to show that you able to calculat
From offlist. I REALLY WISH the server admin would mask source addresses of
posters.
Original message From: juan Date: 12/7/17
5:08 PM (GMT-08:00) To: g2s Subject: Re: Bitcoin...
Destroying the planet
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:58:22 -0800
g2s wrote:
>
> The scumba
It's going great, actually. Bitcoin Cash uptake is growing dramatically
and, unlike Bitcoin Core, is entirely practical for commerce.
As for the flippening it clearly hasn't happened. While it's price has
appreciated it's not a hockey stick. I'm still hopeful the recent code
changes will, probably
The scumbag said
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:19:23 -0800
g2s wrote:
> I dont see where this is a rumor.
...because estimating how much energy is being used in hashing
is rather easy.
so posting completely unsourced garbage like rayzer does is
beyond pathetic...
h
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:12:41 -0800
Steven Schear wrote:
> Bitcoin Cash is up to 8 times more energy efficient and Bitcoin
> Unlimited blockchains could be >> efficient yet.
So Steve you were talking about some sort of "flipping" or
something a while back? How's that going?
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:19:23 -0800
g2s wrote:
> I dont see where this is a rumor.
...because estimating how much energy is being used in hashing
is rather easy.
so posting completely unsourced garbage like rayzer does is
beyond pathetic...
) To: Edward Low ,
cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
I dont see where this is a rumor.
Rr
Original message From: Edward Low Date:
12/7/17 4:16 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the
e: Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
This Denmark-energy rumour comes from this article, if i'm not wrong:
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/aek3za/bitcoin-could-consume-as-much-electricity-as-denmark-by-2020
P.D: Leave out
fights-promotion-BTC-core-segwit-cash-gold-unlimited-bla-bl
I dont see where this is a rumor.
Rr
Original message From: Edward Low Date:
12/7/17 4:16 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
Bitcoin... Destroying the planet
This Denmark-energy rumour comes from this article, if i'm not
wrong:
This Denmark-energy rumour comes from this article, if i'm not wrong:
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/aek3za/bitcoin-could-consume-as-much-electricity-as-denmark-by-2020
P.D: Leave out
fights-promotion-BTC-core-segwit-cash-gold-unlimited-bla-bla-bla from
the list please...
El 08/
The Bitcoin Core mining can remain profitable using up to at least 24 TWh
annually. That said, as the periodic halvings reduce awards the fees, which
are already to high to make it useful for commerce, may soon make it
problematic for investment.
Bitcoin Cash is up to 8 times more energy efficient
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 12:05:26 -0800
g2s wrote:
> The bitcoin computer network currently uses as much
> electricity as Denmark.
and you know that, how, exactly?
Bitcoin. A gambling game only a capitalist scumbag would play. Tim May was
wrong. Btc IS NOT the future. It's a dead end leading to a dead planet.
The bitcoin computer network currently uses as much electricity as Denmark. In
18 months, it will use as much as the entire United States.
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