Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-09 Thread jamesd
Judaism is a religion of exile. On 1/9/2018 10:27 AM, \0xDynamite wrote: Not at all. No temple, don't actually want the temple back, because of the disturbing theological implications of actually having the temple, because actually having the temple immediately re-activates a pile of

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-08 Thread \0xDynamite
>> It's unfair to Jews to classify these people as "jews". I think it's >> mostly anti-semitic overgeneralization. If they don't believe in the >> story of Moses and GOD himself, they aren't really Jews, and they >> shouldn't call themselves Jews. It's like Africans in England calling >>

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-08 Thread \0xDynamite
>> Now what about you applying your racial science to the thieves >> in wall street? > > That the thieves on wall street are predominantly Jewish, most > notoriously Bernie Madoff, former Chairman of the NASDAQ stock market, > is well known. It's unfair to Jews to classify these people

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-07 Thread Steve Kinney
On 01/07/2018 07:24 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > >> > On 1/5/2018 3:49 AM, Marina Brown wrote: >> > > The phenomenon i am talking about are "libertarians" who > > don't >> care about personal liberty, freedom to travel, > > and other stuff >> most of us on this list hold dear. > >> On

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-07 Thread jamesd
> On 1/5/2018 3:49 AM, Marina Brown wrote: > > The phenomenon i am talking about are "libertarians" who > > don't care about personal liberty, freedom to travel, > > and other stuff most of us on this list hold dear. > On 01/04/2018 04:01 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > You don't seem

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-07 Thread Steve Kinney
On 01/04/2018 04:01 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 1/5/2018 3:49 AM, Marina Brown wrote: >> The phenomenon i am talking about are "libertarians" who don't care >> about personal liberty, freedom to travel, and other stuff most of us >> on this list hold dear. > > You don't seem terribly

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-05 Thread juan
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 05:09:17 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 1/6/2018 3:49 AM, juan wrote: > > And I then note that your bullshit about blacks and crime is > > both incredibly dishonest and incredibly stupid because a > > casual look at 'race' and crime shows that whites got the >

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-05 Thread jamesd
On 1/6/2018 3:49 AM, juan wrote: And I then note that your bullshit about blacks and crime is both incredibly dishonest and incredibly stupid because a casual look at 'race' and crime shows that whites got the world record on crime. You definition of "crime" is

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-05 Thread juan
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 15:45:04 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 1/5/2018 1:15 PM, juan wrote: > > What I am getting at, is that the biggest thieves on the > > planet are 'white'. > > Only if you declare all capitalists and all kulaks are thieves. For the purpose of this exercise

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-05 Thread rooty
james - please relax your mind and soul. Yoga, a toke or a nice peace of ass is always nice. Original Message On Jan 4, 2018, 9:45 PM, wrote: > On 1/5/2018 1:15 PM, juan wrote: > What I am getting at, is that the biggest > thieves on the planet > are 'white'. Only if you

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:50:31AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 1/5/2018 8:54 AM, Marina Brown wrote: > > I knew the woman in Reston who was killed by the nazi kid. > > The "Nazi kid" was driving a car that came under attack by antifa > thugs. The windows were smashed in. Trying to get

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 08:47:51AM +, jim bell wrote: > >Yep The far right libertarians like Hoppe > > Uh, pardon me, but how can you refer to people as "far right > libertarians"?  Do you know nothing of the Nolan > Chart, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart  and the World's >

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 1:15 PM, juan wrote: What I am getting at, is that the biggest thieves on the planet are 'white'. Only if you declare all capitalists and all kulaks are thieves. If one thinks that wealth earned from property and enterprise is legitimate, non Jewish white thieves are

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread juan
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:22:30 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 1/5/2018 7:29 AM, juan wrote: > > Now what about you applying your racial science to the > > thieves in wall street? > > That the thieves on wall street are predominantly Jewish, most > notoriously Bernie Madoff, former

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 7:29 AM, juan wrote: Now what about you applying your racial science to the thieves in wall street? That the thieves on wall street are predominantly Jewish, most notoriously Bernie Madoff, former Chairman of the NASDAQ stock market, is well known. And of the thieves

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 7:14 AM, Marina Brown wrote: Even if fascism has been less deadly than communism, i don't find that an argument that would make me adopt fascism. If you are a fascist, and a fascist government takes power, it is highly unlikely to kill you. If you are a communist, and a

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 7:29 AM, juan wrote: I said and repeat, your comments on commie killings are \ right wing propaganda If you talk to any Cambodian, (a lot of donut shops seem to be operated by Cambodians) you will learn that several members of his family were murdered regardless of their real or

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread g2s
Marina wrote: "Nowadays my emotional reaction to TSA and the like is about the same as it was as a kid passing through E. Germany. PAPERS PLEASE !" John Kay of the band Steppenwolf is the son of East German immigrants. He came to the states young, but he had a vicious take on it... or was the

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 8:54 AM, Marina Brown wrote: I knew the woman in Reston who was killed by the nazi kid. The "Nazi kid" was driving a car that came under attack by antifa thugs. The windows were smashed in. Trying to get away, he crashed at high speed into another car, which was pushed into

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 8:03 AM, jim bell wrote: Actually, most forms of totalitarian governments advocate killing people, including their own citizenry.  Why narrow down your objections, artificially, to "fascism"? Fascist governments most certainly do not advocate killing their own citizenry, but are

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread Marina Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/04/2018 05:03 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 1:13:27 PM PST, Marina Brown > wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > > On 01/04/2018 03:21 PM, jim bell wrote: >

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jim bell
On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 1:13:27 PM PST, Marina Brown wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/04/2018 03:21 PM, jim bell wrote: > I don't find that calling it "mccarthyist propaganda" is > particularly persuasive.  We may hate

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 6:21 AM, jim bell wrote: As for the "completely made up numbers", which numbers do you believe to be valid?  I frequently say that in the 20th Century, about 250 million people were killed by government, including in wars.  Far more of those deaths seem to be caused by

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread juan
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 07:13:08 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > jam...@echeque.com wrote: > >> So give me a link to a tenured academic who criticized the Khmer > >> Rouge before December 1978. > > On 1/5/2018 5:58 AM, juan wrote: > > I don't know what 'tenured academics' said. > > Well I

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
jam...@echeque.com wrote: So give me a link to a tenured academic who criticized the Khmer Rouge before December 1978. On 1/5/2018 5:58 AM, juan wrote: I don't know what 'tenured academics' said. Well I quite certainly do know what they said. And if you do not know what they said,

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread Marina Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/04/2018 03:21 PM, jim bell wrote: > On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 10:04:44 AM PST, juan > wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 08:54:35 + (UTC) jim bell > > wrote: > >> On

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 3:49 AM, Marina Brown wrote: The phenomenon i am talking about are "libertarians" who don't care about personal liberty, freedom to travel, and other stuff most of us on this list hold dear. You don't seem terribly keen on the right of a white woman to stroll along the San

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/5/2018 3:53 AM, Marina Brown wrote: LoL ! My mother was an academic in '78 and she criticised the Khmer Rouge all the time. If your mother criticized the Khmer Rouge out loud before December 1978, there would be one academic in the entire western world who criticized them *in*

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, wrote: > > A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before > > 1978 December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers of > > Adolf Hitler. > > > > > > But not one academic in the entire western world, not

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jim bell
On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 10:04:44 AM PST, juan wrote: On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 08:54:35 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: >  On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, > wrote: >  >>  >A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread juan
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 05:38:47 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, > > > wrote: > > > > A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before > > > > 1978 December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers of > > >

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, wrote: > > A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before > > 1978 December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers of Adolf > > Hitler. > > > > But not one academic in the entire western world, not a

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread juan
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 08:54:35 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, > wrote: > > >A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before > >1978 > December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread Marina Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/04/2018 03:54 AM, jim bell wrote: > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, > wrote: > > >> A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before >> 1978 > December, and got called fascists, nazis, and

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread Marina Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/04/2018 03:47 AM, jim bell wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 9:51:25 PM PST, Marina Brown > wrote: > > On 01/03/2018 02:35 PM, g2s wrote: >> >> Marina Brown wrote: >> >>> I stand with Ceci. >> >>

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jamesd
On 1/4/2018 6:47 PM, jim bell wrote: Do you know nothing of the Nolan Chart, Nolan chart has been rendered irrelevant by the fact that the left is no longer stirring up anger, violence, and disorder on the basis of theft and covetousness, and no longer trying to tribalize people by their

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jim bell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST, wrote: >A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before 1978 December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers of Adolf Hitler. >But no one academic in the entire western world, not a single one,

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-04 Thread jim bell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 9:51:25 PM PST, Marina Brown wrote: On 01/03/2018 02:35 PM, g2s wrote: > > Marina Brown wrote: > >> I stand with Ceci. > > I'll take her light hearted fun stuff over the far right babblings > that have pushed decent discussion

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread Marina Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/03/2018 02:35 PM, g2s wrote: > > Marina Brown wrote: > >> I stand with Ceci. > > I'll take her light hearted fun stuff over the far right babblings > that have pushed decent discussion off this list for the most > part. > > How did we get

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread jamesd
On 1/4/2018 1:17 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote: On 1/4/2018 11:08 AM, g2s wrote:  From each according to their ability; to each according to their need... : Thou shalt not steal. : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. : Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread jamesd
On 1/4/2018 11:08 AM, g2s wrote: > The revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love, motherfucker. Let us recollect the Khmer Rouge. Before 1973 the Khmer Rouge were brutal totalitarian terrorists who infamous for sometimes practicing one way portage. You need to transport supplies from

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread jamesd
A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge before 1978 December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers of Adolf Hitler. But no one academic in the entire western world, not a single one, risked his tenure by criticizing the Khmer Rouge until authorized to do so in

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread jamesd
On 1/4/2018 11:08 AM, g2s wrote: Ps. The revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love, motherfucker. Let us always remember that until 1932, every leftist everywhere, including the New York Times, supported the liquidation of the kulaks, And that until 1978 December, every leftist

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread jamesd
On 1/4/2018 11:08 AM, g2s wrote: Leftists hate everyone, troll? From each according to their ability; to each according to their need... Sure sounds hateful. Who decides "need"? g2s gets to decide need, and the kulak who thinks he needs his seed corn does not get to decide need. And

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread g2s
Leftists hate everyone, troll? From each according to their ability; to each according to their need... Sure sounds hateful. Rr Ps. The revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love, motherfucker. A certain Cuban said that, scumbag. To the Junkfile with you null

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread jamesd
"Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: ...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get labeled as the nazis and fascists. Can you say "projection?" On 1/4/2018 6:25 AM, g2s wrote: Decency and order in Capitalist societies are relative and oppress someone somewhere. And where is your

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread g2s
"Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: On 01/03/2018 01:35 PM, g2s wrote: > AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists > and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, despite their > bleatings to the contrary. ...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread juan
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 14:02:20 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > On 01/03/2018 01:35 PM, g2s wrote: > > AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract > > fascists and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, > > despite their bleatings to the contrary. >

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 01/03/2018 01:35 PM, g2s wrote: > AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists > and nazis because they share an underlying ideology, despite their > bleatings to the contrary. ...and those of us who actually stand up for decency and order get labeled as the nazis and

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-03 Thread g2s
Marina Brown wrote:  > I stand with Ceci. I'll take her light hearted fun stuff over the far right babblings that have pushed decent discussion off this list for the most part. How did we get to this point ? --- Marina AnarchoCap/So-called "libertarian" infestation. They attract fascists and

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread Marina Brown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/02/2018 08:53 PM, John Newman wrote: > > > > > > On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger wrote: >> I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I >> actually specify it precisely). >> >> I did read

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread ilsa
remember when this vigor and voice wrapped around digital stories with a light on digital freedom..the latest how to's and how where's which is what was so endearing and attractive. Smile Ilsa Bartlett Institute for Rewiring the System http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread John Newman
On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger wrote: >I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually >specify >it precisely). > >I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn >pathetic >too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread jamesd
On 1/2/2018 8:49 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: Ben did probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or purposely ignored them Pretty sure he did read my messages, which only personally attacked you by calling your personal attacks on me "projection". "Social Justice

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread jamesd
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:07:57PM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and dishonest spam that eminates

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 11:07:57PM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote: > > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and > > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary? > > Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread Ben Mezger
I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually specify it precisely). I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn pathetic too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong about personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-02 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote: > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary? Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and

Re: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-01 Thread juan
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 23:07:57 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > the objections to moderating this list (note: NOT censoring, moderating) oh shill k quinn is back! Hey mr shill, it would be nice if you had something like 1% intellectual honesty and admited that

Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

2018-01-01 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote: > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? and > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary? Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and outright pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant