On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:24:12AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> On 10/26/2016 11:14 AM, Tom wrote:
>
> > there are a couple of people on the list, who do...
>
> No. I don't think there are. I just think some of us believe a
> more-than-small-portion of what's purported to be 'science' is twisted
> and p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_U-238_Atomic_Energy_Laboratory
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Razer wrote:
> If your project ins a Cyclotron or something it might take a while but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/this-fall-the-radioactive-boy-scout-died-at-age-39/
David Charles Hahn (October 30, 1976 – S
PS: - Unhappily, part of this mess on the CP list is my guilt. I can't
deny my participation in pretty bizarre threads and topics, full of bad
words and aggressive comments, in the last five months. Sorry! :(
On Nov 5, 2016 8:11 AM, "John Newman" wrote:
>
> And I still invite the "cesspool" comparison. This list has become a
fucking cesspool, aided and abetted by you and your comrades.
Few days ago, I felt really bad, horrible when received a private message
of a sweet woman, telling me how much
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 06:34:20PM -, coresamp...@sigaint.org wrote:
> > Juan:
> > Your climate 'scientists' are highly paid university parasites,
> > pandering to 'progressive' eco fascists.
>
> The church of "progress" is the religion of the emotionally defective, the
> spiritually dyslexic,
On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 23:17:13 -0400
John Newman wrote:
> Wow, you really took an interest in the fact that I used the word
> dialectics. Did you learn a new word?
Yes, thank you ;)
>
> All your repeated dishonest blathering has gotten repetitive (big
> fucking surprise).
I'm rea
Wow, you really took an interest in the fact that I used the word dialectics.
Did you learn a new word?
All your repeated dishonest blathering has gotten repetitive (big fucking
surprise).
I leave you to your cesspool =). Enjoy it, you pedantic twit.
John
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 2:53 PM, juan
On Sat, 5 Nov 2016 07:11:30 -0400
John Newman wrote:
>
> > On Nov 4, 2016, at 5:20 PM, juan wrote:
> > russian propaganda.
> > I simply ignore it.
>
> You certainly do. Blatant statist bullshit pours into and through the
> list and Juan the protector simply ignores it.
Yep, and th
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 5:20 PM, juan wrote:
> russian propaganda.
> I simply ignore it.
You certainly do. Blatant statist bullshit pours into and through the list and
Juan the protector simply ignores it.
But if someone mentions global warming or science at a professional level
(and Russ
On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 16:33:20 -0400
John Newman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 03:33:00PM -0300, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 07:17:05 -0400
> > John Newman wrote:
> >
> > > (unless the so-called "STATIST" in question is of the
> > > Russian variety, in which case it's all good)
> >
> >
On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 03:33:00PM -0300, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 07:17:05 -0400
> John Newman wrote:
>
> > (unless the so-called "STATIST" in question is of the
> > Russian variety, in which case it's all good)
>
> americunt fascist john newman is offended by russian
> pro
On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 07:17:05 -0400
John Newman wrote:
> (unless the so-called "STATIST" in question is of the
> Russian variety, in which case it's all good)
americunt fascist john newman is offended by russian
propaganda? Yep, self-parody at its best.
of course, americ
On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 07:17:05 -0400
John Newman wrote:
>
>
Snip arguments you can't even start to refute. ('dialectics'?
LMAO)
"Let's assume for 'argumen's sake' that I am 'scientific'
parasite working for your beloved state and that I ALSO
critici
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:34 PM, juan wrote:
>
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 22:20:40 -0400
> John wrote:
>
>> Hey - that's the second time you said you were "done" with me. After
>> making a raft of bogus allegations. Interesting rhetorical
>> technique ;)
>
>Being done with you means not taking
On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 22:20:40 -0400
John wrote:
> Hey - that's the second time you said you were "done" with me. After
> making a raft of bogus allegations. Interesting rhetorical
> technique ;)
Being done with you means not taking you seriously and not
caring about what I write
On 11/03/2016 08:20 PM, John wrote:
> Hey - that's the second time you said you were "done" with me. After making a
> raft of bogus allegations. Interesting rhetorical technique ;)
>
> Cosmic parody? "Sonny" (lol)? Something here is a cosmic parody, but it
> isn't some words and beliefs you've
I should've said cave lions, not tigers - was a reference to earlier email
where Juan made "quick work" (heh) of Tom for pointing out a few scientific
links.
John
On November 3, 2016 9:58:28 PM EDT, Razer wrote:
>
>
>On 11/03/2016 01:06 PM, John Newman wrote:
>> For that matter, get rid of yo
Hey - that's the second time you said you were "done" with me. After making a
raft of bogus allegations. Interesting rhetorical technique ;)
Cosmic parody? "Sonny" (lol)? Something here is a cosmic parody, but it isn't
some words and beliefs you've put in my mouth.
Cheers
John
On November
On 11/03/2016 01:06 PM, John Newman wrote:
> For that matter, get rid of your electricity, stay away from hospitals,
> and go live in the woods you can hunt some tigers :P
I always love that extreme overarching generalization by technocrats
about what one should do in the way of rejecting te
There isn't any hypocrysy on my part. I unlike you do not
advocate STATISM and CENSORSHIP in the 'cypherpunks' mailing
list.
"get rid of your electricity, stay away from hospitals, and go
live in the woods"
That's exactly what the most corrupt an
Hey, the bots broken again ? Seems to be on repeat.
Your blatant hypocrisy was my point, obviously.
Just because Juan says it (or denies it) - does not make it so.
John
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:39 PM, juan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Thanks John. You keep making the point that you are a stupid
>
Thanks John. You keep making the point that you are a stupid
STATIST piece of shit.
You don't have anything really useful to add to the
conversation. Also, given your support for statism one would
wonder what the fuck you do in this list, apart from troll
You can dish it the fuck out Juan, but you can't take it :)
Wanna call me a faggot retard now? How old are you anyway?
And yes, you do truly embody the "punk" ethos, which you love to bring up. Not
punk as in punk rock, but punk as in a little whipped bitch.
Have fun with your conspiratard t
Thanks John. You keep making the point that you are a stupid
piece of shit.
You don't have anything really useful to add to the
conversation. Also, given your support for statism one would
wonder what the fuck you do in this list, apart from trolling.
On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 05:11:03PM -0300, juan wrote:
> Let me point out though that your line of thinking that
> goes from "I like something" to "so it must be funded by the
> mafia" is not only nonsense, it's morally unaccpetable.
If you find scientific advances that were made
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 09:41:02 +0200
Tom wrote:
>
> > Thanks for providing a reason why your view of the
> > establishment can be biased. You like what they do
> > regardless of where the funding comes from.
>
> If I can learn something new, does it really matter, who paid for it?
> On 10/28/2016 12:07 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>>> But if all politicians, all employers, all teachers, all scientists and
>>> so on are fascists, parasites, or idiots, who are the sane people left?
>>> C'mon, nobody can be that stupid to really think that EVERY scientist is
>>> part of a global mult
On 10/28/2016 12:07 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>> But if all politicians, all employers, all teachers, all scientists and
>> so on are fascists, parasites, or idiots, who are the sane people left?
>> C'mon, nobody can be that stupid to really think that EVERY scientist is
>> part of a global multi cult
On 10/28/2016 05:42 PM, coresamp...@sigaint.org wrote:
>> Razer:
>> You didn't pull that quote out of your ass cunt. You knew who wrote it.
>
> That's the way legitimate posters 'roll'.
>
.
A whole new meaning to 'legitimate'.
Rr
> Razer:
> You didn't pull that quote out of your ass cunt. You knew who wrote it.
That's the way legitimate posters 'roll'.
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:33:52 -0400
Kevin Gallagher wrote:
>
>
> On 10/28/2016 10:06 AM, Razer wrote:
> > Ps. Obviously, I don't hate science... as someone mentioned earlier
> > it's going to require a cultural shift to literally DISARM the
> > scientists. They should hold bake sales for their p
> But if all politicians, all employers, all teachers, all scientists and
> so on are fascists, parasites, or idiots, who are the sane people left?
> C'mon, nobody can be that stupid to really think that EVERY scientist is
> part of a global multi cultural, multi societal, multi language
> conspira
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 07:06:09AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> Why not?
>
> In 1988 or so I took an Epson HX-20 cp/m laptop and put it on the
> intertubz, and packet radio, using a basic 1.1 program I wrote myself
> that also would print out (on demand) a log or screen info to it's cash
> register tape
On 10/28/2016 07:33 AM, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> I have to start thinking about funding soon. I better start making
> brownies and selling them in places where people would care about my
> research! I'm really not interested in taking dirty DoD money or
> something like that.
>
Go to Colorado
On 10/28/2016 10:06 AM, Razer wrote:
> Ps. Obviously, I don't hate science... as someone mentioned earlier it's
> going to require a cultural shift to literally DISARM the scientists.
> They should hold bake sales for their projects until the time they
> unhook themselves from the Pentagon and th
On 10/28/2016 12:41 AM, Tom wrote:
> Yeah, I'll build my own orbital telescope and count galaxies
Why not?
In 1988 or so I took an Epson HX-20 cp/m laptop and put it on the
intertubz, and packet radio, using a basic 1.1 program I wrote myself
that also would print out (on demand) a log or screen
> I never said "science is the enemy" - I do say that
> technicians working for the establishment and pretending to be
> 'scientists' are the enemy. The claims are related, but not
> equal.
Ok, makes sense.
> Thanks for providing a reason why your view of the
>
On 10/27/2016 02:14 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> https://xkcd.com/1520/
Oh, and another thing. The problem isn't science. It's human nature.
I'm not optimistic. I suspect that we're a transitional stage in the
evolution of consciousness. And that's what's important. Not a
particular flavor of m
On 10/27/2016 02:14 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> https://xkcd.com/1520/
Yes, biology did become more popular after the 50s, in reaction to
nuclear weapons. Feynman did have a good point, but he was rather a
sarcastic asshole.
To unpack a bit, he was distinguishing between observation and
experi
https://xkcd.com/1520/
On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 13:58:06 +0200
Tom wrote:
> Juan,
>
> > Who are they, Tom?
>
> As I understand your mails, you're one of them. Maybe I misunderstood
> your mails
I never said "science is the enemy" - I do say that
technicians working for the establishment and pretending
But But! Whitey's on the MOON!
That's my problem with your, and so many other worshipers of
Technocracy's worldview, in a sentence Tom. Those pretty pictures come
with a price, and that price is MURDER, of people who would never get to
see those pretty pictures.
Another example... This gun can fi
Juan,
> Who are they, Tom?
As I understand your mails, you're one of them. Maybe I misunderstood
your mails - my appologies in that case.
> And where's the 'scientific' evidence for your propaganda claim?
Why should I make propaganda? I'm not the government nor do I work for
one. I just happ
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:43:09PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> Additionally, science is not without limits. We, as scientists, cannot
> perform experiments that harm people. We also cannot perform experiments
> without consent.
Moral actors can impose such limits on themselves.
Science, unfor
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:24:12 -0700
Razer wrote:
>
>
> On 10/26/2016 11:14 AM, Tom wrote:
>
> > there are a couple of people on the list, who do...
>
> No. I don't think there are. I just think some of us believe a
> more-than-small-portion of what's purported to be 'science' is twisted
> and
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:14:51 +0200
Tom wrote:
> Hello Kevin,
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:43:09PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> > I do not claim that science is the enemy. It is the opposite.
>
> Ah, great. However, there are a couple of people on the list, who do.
Who are they, T
On 10/26/2016 11:14 AM, Tom wrote:
> there are a couple of people on the list, who do...
No. I don't think there are. I just think some of us believe a
more-than-small-portion of what's purported to be 'science' is twisted
and perverted to fit the needs of industrialists and capitalists
excludi
Hello Kevin,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:43:09PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> I do not claim that science is the enemy. It is the opposite.
Ah, great. However, there are a couple of people on the list, who do. My
mail was merely directed at them, not at you personally. Sorry if it
sounded that
Hello Tom,
I do not claim that science is the enemy. It is the opposite. If I believed
science was the enemy I would not be working towards my Ph.D.. I am simply
pointing out that the current system is quite screwed up.
Science is the process by which we discover and understand the truth. In
that
You didn't pull that quote out of your ass cunt. You knew who wrote it.
On 10/26/2016 03:10 AM, coresamples @ sigaint.org wrote:
>
> That's what you get for using dictionaries.
>
> Razer:
> "The church of "progress" is the religion of the emotionally defective,
> the spiritually dyslexic, and the philosophically depraved."
> ~John Anthony West
That's what you get for using dictionaries.
On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:03:00 -0700
Razer wrote:
>
>
> On 10/25/2016 05:24 AM, John Newman wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Tom wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 05:36:30PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> >>> They are blind enough to believe that their "advances" help
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:36:30 -0400
Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> Hello all, "scientist" (PhD candidate) here in the field of computer
> science and cyber security.
>
> Most of the scientists I have encountered are not totally malicious,
> just oblivious to the moral, ethical and political consequence
On 10/25/2016 05:24 AM, John Newman wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Tom wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 05:36:30PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
>>> They are blind enough to believe that their "advances" help society,
>>> despite them actually shifting the balance of power aw
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Tom wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 05:36:30PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
>> They are blind enough to believe that their "advances" help society,
>> despite them actually shifting the balance of power away from the people.
>
> The point of science is to f
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 05:36:30PM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote:
> They are blind enough to believe that their "advances" help society,
> despite them actually shifting the balance of power away from the people.
The point of science is to find answers to open questions and by doing
so gain knowled
On 10/24/2016 11:34 AM, coresamp...@sigaint.org wrote a plagiarism:
"The church of "progress" is the religion of the emotionally defective,
the spiritually dyslexic, and the philosophically depraved." ~John
Anthony West https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_West
>> Juan:
>> Your climate
Hello all, "scientist" (PhD candidate) here in the field of computer
science and cyber security.
Most of the scientists I have encountered are not totally malicious, just
oblivious to the moral, ethical and political consequences of their work.
They are blind enough to believe that their "advances
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 20:58:24 +0200
Tom wrote:
> But if all politicians, all employers, all teachers, all scientists
> and so on are fascists, parasites,
It's obvious that all 'scieniists' working for the state are
parasites working for fascist states. Perhaps you need to
But if all politicians, all employers, all teachers, all scientists and
so on are fascists, parasites, or idiots, who are the sane people left?
Only you, the russians and the Juan's out there?
C'mon, nobody can be that stupid to really think that EVERY scientist is
part of a global multi cultura
> Juan:
> Your climate 'scientists' are highly paid university parasites,
> pandering to 'progressive' eco fascists.
The church of "progress" is the religion of the emotionally defective, the
spiritually dyslexic, and the philosophically depraved.
To put it into other terms:
If you want happines
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