Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-13 Thread juan
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:46:29 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 12/12/2017 07:02 AM, juan wrote: > > > I wanted to comment on the quaker thing as well. The > > word consensus is derived from and requires consent. > > Theocracy or religious fraud, especially of

Re: quakers - Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-12 Thread Steve Kinney
On 12/12/2017 08:40 PM, juan wrote: > > > got a few more comments about quakers but Ill start with this > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_drugs > > "in 1874 the Society for the Suppression of the Opium Trade was > formed in England by Quakers led by

quakers - Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-12 Thread juan
got a few more comments about quakers but Ill start with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_drugs "in 1874 the Society for the Suppression of the Opium Trade was formed in England by Quakers led by the Rev. Frederick Storrs-Turner."

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-12 Thread Mirimir
On 12/11/2017 08:10 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 12/10/2017 01:06 PM, g2s wrote: >> >> Original message >> From: Georgi Guninski <gunin...@guninski.com> >> Date: 12/10/17 8:02 AM (GMT-08:00) >> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org &g

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-12 Thread Steve Kinney
On 12/12/2017 07:02 AM, juan wrote: > I wanted to comment on the quaker thing as well. The > word consensus is derived from and requires consent. Theocracy > or religious fraud, especially of the jew-kkkristian variety > has fuck to do with consent. By definition fraud

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-11 Thread Steve Kinney
On 12/10/2017 01:06 PM, g2s wrote: > > Original message > From: Georgi Guninski <gunin...@guninski.com> > Date: 12/10/17 8:02 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > Subject: Re: What is consensus? > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-10 Thread g2s
Original message From: Georgi Guninski <gunin...@guninski.com> Date: 12/10/17 8:02 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: What is consensus? On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 07:42:02AM -0800, g2s wrote: > Consensus is defined as agreement. Voting is on

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-10 Thread Sr Sandok
Just like what happened in catalonia? On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 17:03, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 07:42:02AM -0800, g2s wrote: > > Consensus is defined as agreement. Voting is one process to (hopefully) > reach it. > >

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-10 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 07:42:02AM -0800, g2s wrote: > Consensus is defined as agreement. Voting is one process to (hopefully) reach > it. > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus lol "If voting could change things, it would have been outlawed." -- anon Just check what fucks were

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-10 Thread g2s
ct: Re: What is consensus? So there is clearly a difference between what some understand as consensus (voting) and others understand as consensus (everybody agree with no voting). Votation should only be the last option if everybody can not agree on the same dec

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-10 Thread Edward Low
So there is clearly a difference between what some understand as consensus (voting) and others understand as consensus (everybody agree with no voting). Votation should only be the last option if everybody can not agree on the same decission, but consensus should try to avoid votations as much as

What is consensus?

2017-12-09 Thread Green Peas
> Mirimir mirimir at riceup.net > Fri Dec 8 10:37:04 PST 2017 > > And you're full of shit, sir ;) > Yet you provide no reason. > Ask any Quaker > Your appeal to authority is logical fallacy. Try again, good sir.

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-08 Thread Mirimir
On 12/08/2017 07:27 AM, Temple OS User wrote: >> Mirimir mirimir at wiseup.net >> Fri Dec 8 09:04:06 PST 2017 >> > >> voting is not consensus >> > > You are incorrect, sir. And you're full of shit, sir ;) Ask any Quaker, for example. > Similar to 'consentire': > 'con' - a variant of 'com'

What is consensus?

2017-12-08 Thread Temple OS User
> Mirimir mirimir at wiseup.net > Fri Dec 8 09:04:06 PST 2017 > > voting is not consensus > You are incorrect, sir. Similar to 'consentire': 'con' - a variant of 'com' meaning 'with' 'sentire' - a variant of 'sēnsus' meaning 'to feel' Literally 'with sense' or 'in agreement'. To join in

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-08 Thread Mirimir
But you can also stand aside when you don't entirely agree, but don't want to stand in the way of progress. > On 12/07/2017 06:19 PM, g2s wrote: >> >> Original message >> From: Edward Low <edward...@riseup.net> >> Date: 12/7/17 5:03 PM (GMT-08:00)

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-07 Thread Douglas Lucas
-2/ See also: https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/a-societal-singularity/ On 12/07/2017 06:19 PM, g2s wrote: > > Original message > From: Edward Low <edward...@riseup.net> > Date: 12/7/17 5:03 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > Su

Re: What is consensus?

2017-12-07 Thread g2s
Original message From: Edward Low <edward...@riseup.net> Date: 12/7/17 5:03 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: What is consensus? There is a question I would like to send to the list and get some feedback. As far as I was told, consensus is

What is consensus?

2017-12-07 Thread Edward Low
There is a question I would like to send to the list and get some feedback. As far as I was told, consensus is a way to reach a decision without the need of voting, so there is no majority nor minority, no one can impose their ways even if they are majority so no lobby and no forcing. Clearly,