Greg Broiles wrote:
> Hmm. Can you identify any problems with log files as evidence which aren't
> also present in, say, eyewitness testimony, audiotape recordings, video
> recordings, fingerprints, photographs, tool & die marks, paper records, and
> all of the other evidence which courts admit o
At 11:00 PM 5/1/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> Has anyone given any though to how log files could be accepted as
>evidence in the first place? They're just text files, and exceedingly
>trivial to alter, forge, erase, whatever. They get edited all the time
>by hackers -- how can anyone,
One thing to also remember is that standard log files are nothing more than
text files and can be faked fairly easily... Which would make it wide open
for a defending attorney to argue against..
Jon
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Has anyone given any though to how log files could be accepted as
evidence in the first place? They're just text files, and exceedingly
trivial to alter, forge, erase, whatever. They get edited all the time
by hackers -- how can anyone, even the sysadmin, swear that they are
"true"? We just
On Tue, 1 May 2001, David Honig wrote:
>Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs
>when in fact you do?
If someone winds up losing money (or suffering other damages)
because of it, it is at least a tort. If you were planning
some kind of money-making scam that hinge
Tim:
> On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 06:05 PM, Aimee Farr wrote:
>
> > Honig:
> >
> >> Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs
> >> when in fact you do?
> >
> > Seems deceptive...
> >
>
> A profound new insight.
deceptive trade practices depend on context
> We still a
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> WASHINGTON, D.C. (Routers News Service) -- President George W. Bush w
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 07:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At Tue, 1 May 2001 18:14:38 -0700, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The real argument is that commanding a person to keep records of whom
>> he communicates with (which is what a log of messages is all about) is
>> a slam dun
At Tue, 1 May 2001 18:14:38 -0700, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The real argument is that commanding a person to keep records of whom
>he communicates with (which is what a log of messages is all about) is
>a slam dunk violation of the First Amendment. It is no more acceptable
>than an
At 12:15 PM 4/30/01 -0500, Aimee Farr wrote:
>Sunder on Honig:
>
>> David Honig wrote:
>> >
>> > The term 'grey man' is also used by R. Tomlinson in _The Big Breach_
>> > where it means basically the same, an observer/tail/Gargoyle
>> who blends in.
>>
>> Erm, perhaps, but "Gargoyle" has a complet
At 12:13 AM 4/30/01 -0400, Phillip H. Zakas wrote:
>i agree...unless you're specifically directed to do so, maintaining log
>files is completely optional.
Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs
when in fact you do?
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 03:51 PM, David Honig wrote:
> At 09:17 AM 4/30/01 -0400, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
>> I remember having lunch a while back with Loki and the topic of logs
>> come up- He mentioned that his company fully and completely complies
>> with warrants for all logs, especially ea
>> The idealism that I refer to is the
>> concept that human beings can create
>> something substantially better than
>> what exists.
>
This is the fundamental driving force of all human endeavor incl. tech.,
ag., etc.
Make your kids' situation better than yours.
Everything follows.
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 06:05 PM, Aimee Farr wrote:
> Honig:
>
>> Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs
>> when in fact you do?
>
> Seems deceptive...
>
A profound new insight.
We still await some real insights from a real graduate student (!),
beyond her say
Honig:
> Is it in fact a crime of fraud to advertise that you don't keep logs
> when in fact you do?
Seems deceptive...
I look for the continued development of tortious evidentiary spoliation in a
digital context, which includes negative legal presumptions, sanctions up to
default judgmen
At 05:01 PM 4/28/01 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
>> communicate something valuable about important issues. And calling
>> people drones, sheep and idiots right off the bat doesn't exactly
>> seem like a winning public relations strategy.
>
>The sheeple are not listening. They are not going to li
At 06:32 PM 4/28/01 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>People don't need to spend several months wading through cryptography
>textbooks to come up to a level that is sufficient to understand the
>real issues.)
>
>
>--Tim May
In fact, crypto textbooks will teach you about the tensile strength
of steel, but
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d
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