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Subject: BBC story w/more details on UK mandatory ID, biometrics
proposals
The home secretary indicated on BBC One's On the Record
programme that his personal view was that a voluntary scheme
The home secretary indicated on BBC One's On the Record programme that
his personal view was that a voluntary scheme would be pointless.
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Monday, 24 September, 2001, 04:55 GMT
...from Monday's Sunday Times UK.
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Xeni Jardin
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MONDAY SEPTEMBER 24 2001
Blunkett wants ID cards for all
BY MELISSA KITE, STEWART TENDLER AND DANIEL MCGRORY
Indeed it may have to be fought through the crosshairs...
Time to show Ellison who the real threats to his personal safety are...
Its time to water the tree...
Only cowards worry about possible punishment. If this be terrorism, make the
most of it!
It seems quite a few have been making
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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The legislative power of the people (not me, the crypto guys are the
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on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 07:16:03AM +0200, Anonymous
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For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there...
In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an
article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers.
quote
Nathan Ballard of
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/23/2235219mode=thread
Most of it's not very deep...
will you divest?
yes
Two months ago would have been better :-)
http://www.schwab.com/SchwabNOW/navigation/mainFrameSet/0,4528,529|3283,00.html
They've gone from about 20 to 10.7
FYI.
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The Friday September 21st Washington Post carried an article by
Ariana
Zombywuf[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Quoting Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What would actually happen is that there would not be an attempt
to hijack the plane. The only reason the terrorists pulled it off
on the first three was that the usual protocol for hijacks involves
Anonymous[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there...
In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an
article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers.
quote
Nathan Ballard of the City Attorney's Office told the
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Tim May, All the way?...4 prez that is
Tim has good views and points to various events and i think he deserves some
credit and should run for prez. TIM MAY for president in 2k4
nahhow about
They can tattoo it right next to the Exit Only on my butt cheeks...
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FC: Oracle's Larry Ellison urges national ID card for
On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 01:44 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
You're pretty much right.But the Times has some very decent
reporters, and get more national security and defense scoops
than the Post.
-Declan
The Moonies also own my favorite handgun maker: Kahr Arms.
(At least this
Mr. Keyser-Soze of the hushmail jacket:
Although I'm not into anthropomorphics I'd guess my sign would be
either mongoose (fast and perisistent and loves to kill snakes)
or weasel (agile, sly, cunning and sneaky and loves to kill rats)
Want to catch some REALLY big fish?
Dangle your ego.
I wonder how many people on this list would qualify as sympathetic to
terrorist causes, a very vague phrase which could mean almost anything.
From www.newsday.com
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By MARC HUMBERT
Associated Press Writer
September 24, 2001
ALBANY, N.Y. -- One third of New Yorkers favor establishing
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry...
I am. Find another way other than killing the Polar Bears (they have to
helicopter them around the N. pole each year so they don't starve), seals,
whales, etc.
Your right to
On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 04:33 PM, Eric Cordian wrote:
I wonder how many people on this list would qualify as sympathetic to
terrorist causes, a very vague phrase which could mean almost anything.
From www.newsday.com
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By MARC HUMBERT
Associated Press Writer
September 24,
At 09:10 AM 9/24/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although I'm not into anthropomorphics I'd guess my sign would be either
mongoose (fast and perisistent and loves to kill snakes) or weasel (agile,
sly, cunning and sneaky and loves to kill rats)
Damnit, you should have said *dollar* sign.
In
On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote:
I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards,
weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly
undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian
and authoritarian
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From: Someone
Working to keep our neighbors awake and informed is our best hope, in my
view - that is the only way democracy will ever work.
Historically this has often failed (e.g., the lack of outcry against
Japanese internment camps). Neighboors are
At 4:43 pm -0700 24/9/01, Tim May wrote:
Unencumbered by any Bill of Rights or true Constitution, the Brits
are way ahead of us. Arrest on suspicion, detainment without charge,
outlawing of entire classes of organizations.
That is the joy of being a subject rather than a Citizen. It is one
of
CDR: Re: Intercepts foretold of 'big attack' -- The Washington Times
John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Bill Gertz has received an extraordinary number of leaked
documents. Most of those occurred during the Clinton era
when national security mongerers opposed to Clinton's
policies leaked top
You're pretty much right.But the Times has some very decent
reporters, and get more national security and defense scoops
than the Post.
-Declan
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:05:10PM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
The Choate wrote:
Subject:Intercepts foretold of 'big attack' -- The
hey tim,
maybe you remember me from the early days of [EMAIL PROTECTED] just
wanted to butt in here and reply to your post which i saw forwarded to
some other list... it beats me why americans and the western media generally
likes to get worried about the most dangerous spot in the world and
Lawmaker calls for more Internet encryption
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/09/24/encryption.reut/index.html
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A U.S. lawmaker well-versed in technology issues
said Friday that government bodies and citizens should use more
encryption, not less, to increase security on
Steve,
I read it a few days ago. I think that it will take a decade or two to
be widely accepted.
I'm betting that the standard method of management by crisis will be how
our country deals with the end of oil whether the writer is corrrect or
not about the date.
Mike
Steve Schear wrote:
At
On 24 Sep 2001, at 17:49, Robert wrote:
Cal. Penal Code ' 631, 632 (Deering 1999): It is a crime
in California to intercept or eavesdrop upon any
confidential communication, including a telephone call or
wire communication, without the consent of all parties.
It is not a
At 02:43 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What Bush and cronies want to do in ANWR is entirely unrelated to
strategy - they want the right to go make money by drilling on public
lands. If it goes through in the near future watch how much the
government spends on roads and other
Under the California statute, a conversation in which the parties have no
expectation that the discussion would not be disclosed to others is not
confidential. Cal. Penal Code. Sect.632(a). Confidentiality has been
construed in California to mean a reasonable expectation that the content
of the
Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry...
I am. Find another way other than killing the Polar Bears (they have to
helicopter them around the N. pole each year so they don't starve),
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel: The
SSSCA
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:06:53 -0700
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From: Someone
Working to keep our neighbors awake and informed is our best hope, in my
view -
I've written a bit about national ID card proposals. This link
may eventually work:
http://search.hotwired.com/search97/s97.vts?Action=FilterSearchFilter=docs_filter.htsResultTemplate=news.htsCollection=newsQueryMode=InternetQuery=%22national%20id%22%20mccullagh
-Declan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001
Bill Gertz has received an extraordinary number of leaked
documents. Most of those occurred during the Clinton era
when national security mongerers opposed to Clinton's
policies leaked top secret stuff. Those kinds of leaks seemed
to have diminished now that those anti-Dems are in
power again.
At 09:46 PM 9/22/01 -0700, pseudolicious wrote:
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Thursday backed away from the
At 04:58 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote:
I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep,
ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind
of crap spewed
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Tim May wrote:
We are not for democracy. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting
on what's for dinner.
Speak for yourself butthead.
Crypto anarchy is about undermining democracy, causing the house of
cards to collapse.
Anarcho anything is a sham.
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Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
indians and pakistanis don't worry about nuclear war because we know that
the nuclear tests were for attention - india has had the Bomb since 1974, and
pakistan has been known to have it for a decade. india carried out the tests
At 04:23 PM 9/24/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also think we should learn a lesson from NY - annual vehicle
registration costs are based on vehicle weight.
Mike
That's not fair. It penalizes safer (more massive) cars
without regard to their actual petrol consumption.
If you only tax
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Subject: [texas-hpr] ATF letter
May be worth checking this outnot that anyone hasen't already..
Thomas Leavitt writes:
I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards,
weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly
undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian
and authoritarian types from the far left and the far right as
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As usual you misunderstand me - I only approve of going into ANWR in a
case of dire need. Our society depends so heavily on fossil fuels that a
sudden removal would cause panic and starvation.
I don't misunderstand at all. Better we learn to live
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:49:41 -0300
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ... and the survival of the Western world
From: Los Angeles Times.com Forums, Politics, CubDest Editorial, Sept.
24, 2001
THE TERROR TEST AND
At 04:33 PM 9/24/01 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
I wonder how many people on this list would qualify as sympathetic to
terrorist causes, a very vague phrase which could mean almost
anything.
By MARC HUMBERT
Associated Press Writer
ALBANY, N.Y. -- One third of New Yorkers favor establishing
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