Quoting Dr. Evil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I am beginning to think that this whole thing is not so much
Cypherpunks vs. FBI as it is mullets vs. coolnecks. Obviously,
the average mullet is no more qualified to understand net and crypto
than the average coolneck is qualified to understand... well
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All, please forgive the cross-posting, I haven't been following any of
these lists recently, but have a vested interest in this conversation
and would like to be CC'd on this thread in the future.
First, can somebody please send me a reference for
From: Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think the Constitution was the biggest curse ever cast on you. Every
time
something bad happens, you use these magic words like entrapment or
protected by the first ammendment and so on, instead of shooting the
criminals.
And shooting innocent people too.
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Jim Choate wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
It is clear that whatever ID procedures were in effect, they were not
effective. Many enlistees lied about their ages and got away with it.
I have zero problem with that assertion.
However, lying about ones age and
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13 Dec 2001, at 22:33, Jei wrote:
This has to be a joke/hoax.
Aye, but by whom, on whom?
A _tongue_in_cheek_ announcement from the group claims that cDc 'has
more targeted experience than anyone else in this field'.
(emphasis is mine)
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote:
Frissell's Believe it or Not:
WWII was won by soldiers, sailors, and marines who fought, died, flew
bombers, commanded armies, commanded fleets, and possessed and used nuclear
weapons without ever
[Tom Uren on a trip to japan by the head of the returned soldiers league.]
I'm talking about the militarists, the crimes they committed and the
atrocities they committed -- should be taught in the education system to
the young people.
TONY JONES: He said today specifically this was an
From the Love your country but don't trust its government files:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34707-2001Dec12.html
An Army biological and chemical warfare facility in Utah has been
quietly developing a virulent, weapons-grade formulation of anthrax
spores since at least 1992,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On 13 Dec 2001, at 22:33, Jei wrote:
We are confident that Microsoft and the government will limit the
use of
this technology only to targets relevant to legitimate
investigations, he
added, further underscoring the cult's faith in federal law
enforcement
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Dirk Boxcuttah forwards:
An Army biological and chemical warfare facility in Utah has been
quietly developing a virulent, weapons-grade formulation of anthrax
spores since at least 1992, and samples of the bacteria were shipped
back and forth between that facility and Fort Detrick, Md., on
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child
pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment,
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course
everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police
are filthy liars. In fact they have gone so
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Nomen Nescio writes:
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child
pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment,
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course
everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police
are filthy liars.
I
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From: Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marcel wrote:
I think the Constitution was the biggest curse ever cast on you. Every
time
something bad happens, you use these magic words like entrapment or
protected by the first ammendment and so on, instead of
This is pretty funny. As you'll see in Part V, I got tipped off to the
case by Crime Victims for a Just Society. As for the rest, well, I posted
a bunch of court documents on wired.com; read them for yourself and
make up your own mind.
-Declan
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 07:50:24PM +0100, Nomen
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Peter Trei sent mattd is still a newbie to this list. He will eventually
learn that the title of the list: 'cypherpunks' tells nothing about the
views of list subscribers, which range widely. In particular, he will learn
that participation in the list does not imply acceptance of any
Birdbrain nescio plopsDeclan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided
series...
Well he's a prime CALC suspect.Ill grant you that.
everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel
Corn patch moving violation? Tim? anyone?
the police are filthy liars.
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On 14 Dec 2001, at 15:02, Declan McCullagh wrote:
This is pretty funny. As you'll see in Part V, I got tipped off to the
case by Crime Victims for a Just Society. As for the rest, well, I posted
a bunch of court documents on wired.com; read them for yourself and
make up your own mind.
Have any of the cypherpunks run across useful analyses of the recently
released bin Laden videotape?
Mainstream media seems ready to question the accuracy of the translation -
but I'm curious if the tape has any basis in reality at all.
Purportedly, it was discovered by unidentified parties in
Paul Holman writes, to about 10 email lists:
All, please forgive the cross-posting, I haven't been following any of
these lists recently, but have a vested interest in this conversation
and would like to be CC'd on this thread in the future.
First, can somebody please send me a reference
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
...the police are filthy liars.
Um, yes, generally. Sure, there are exceptions, but as a rule that would be
accurate.
In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn
onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted
What is peculiar is that the non-bin Laden parts of the tape
are superior quality, with close up zooms and other adjustments
for quality. The portions which show UBL are consistently poorer
than the rest, and show little adjustment for quality. Hard to know
if that difference is in the original
Also, it is peculiar that almost nobody in the tape
looked at the camera, which is hard to do unless
trained to do so like actors are, or such looks were
removed by editing.
It is also possible that the tape was made surreptitiously,
though the differing camera angles would have to be
done by
Perhaps, but I'll take the position it's real until more evidence
appears to the contrary. Peter Trei
Agreed,I too was surprised by the implosions.Long live USAMA BIN
LADEN,VIVA! Death to the fascist snakes of...etc.
From a previous post by peter trei.
participation in the list does not
It's possible that mattd is actually Gary Hart sans charisma.
Thanks weasl,thanks a hell of a lot.You just blew me out of the water. Yes
I am and I beg the Office of homeland security
to immediately begin the crypto-pedo blitz.Its the only way to dampen
crypto-anarchy and avoid massive future
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UBL might want to send a few bucks.
This is the real world.Right here,right now.The pile is about to go
critical.I hope those warez raids were a
Quoting Nomen Nescio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection
between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk
pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian. Is it possible
that Cordian and Benedict are
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