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On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 04:12:40PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: > > Agreed, every politician has their own problems. I /personally/ don't > believe that Mr. Gore was trying to take credit for 'inventing' the > Internet. His wording is incredibly vague, and I agree that it could be > taken as him t

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2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Pete Capelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:56]: : > Who you vote for is up to you. I'm not telling you to vote for him, I'm : > just correcting a pretty large non-truth propogated by American media. : : B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: : http:/

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2004-04-26 Thread Pete Capelli
Damian Gerow wrote: > Who you vote for is up to you. I'm not telling you to vote for him, I'm > just correcting a pretty large non-truth propogated by American media. B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/preside

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2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:38]: : >Hey, I'm no fan of Tipper either. And I'm not saying that Al Gore was a : >/good/ choice. But in retrospect, he probably would have been a lesser : >evil : >than the current president. : : THAT, ultimately is the meta-point. You should

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

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Damian Gerow wrote: Hey, I'm no fan of Tipper either. And I'm not saying that Al Gore was a /good/ choice. But in retrospect, he probably would have been a lesser evil than the current president. THAT, ultimately is the meta-point. You shouldn't have to vote for the lesser evil, but when your c

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2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:10]: : >Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through : >various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to : >represent what he said through that phrase. : > : >What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actu

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Damian Gerow wrote: Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-checkings, the Mass Media came to represent what he said through that phrase. What he /actually/ claimed (and what he /actually/ did) was recognize its importance, and then pu

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:18:52AM -0400, sunder wrote: > Jack Lloyd wrote: > > >Still, I liked this quote: '"I came to vote because wasting one's ballot > >in a > >democracy is a sin," he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US > >these > >days, it seems like. > > What do you expect whe

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Jack Lloyd wrote: Still, I liked this quote: '"I came to vote because wasting one's ballot in a democracy is a sin," he told the BBC.' Not too common a view in the US these days, it seems like. What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al "I Invented the Innnernet" Gore, an

Re: BBC on all-electronic Indian elections

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 11:31]: : What do you expect when the previous choice we've had was between Al "I : Invented the Innnernet" Gore, and George "Nucular" Dubbya? Actually, Mr. Gore didn't once claim to invent the Internet. Through various mis-wordings and lax fact-ch

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