Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Of course it should be given an unique IP address. Actually there is no reason that a fixed IP is ever used. You actually don't even need a fixed hostname (at least above the per-connection level, you do it for convenience). --

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, David Howe wrote: > I think what I am trying to say is - given a "normal" internet user > using IPv4 software that wants to connect to someone "in the cloud", how > does he identify *to his software* the machine in the cloud if that > machine is not given a unique IP address

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, David Howe wrote: > I think what I am trying to say is - given a "normal" internet user > using IPv4 software that wants to connect to someone "in the cloud", how > does he identify *to his software* the machine in the cloud if that > machine is not given a unique IP address?

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-02 Thread David Howe
at Monday, December 02, 2002 8:42 AM, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: > No, an orthogonal identifier is sufficient. In fact, DNS loc would be > a good start. I think what I am trying to say is - given a "normal" internet user using IPv4 software that wants to connect to someone "

Re: CDR: Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov.29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Dave Howe wrote: > Jim Choate wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Dave Howe wrote: > > The scaling problem is a valid one up to a point. The others are not. > > The biggest problem is people trying to do distributed computing using > > non-distributed os'es (eg *nix clones and Mi

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002(fwd)

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: > "Photons are bosons, so they don't interact with each other. Generally, don't forget 'entanglement' which is clearly interacting with each other ;) > Well, by interfere I meant in the detectors of course. So are you telling me > that two WiFi receivers

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-01 Thread Dave Howe
Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Dave Howe wrote: > I believe I mentioned geographic routing (which is actually > switching, and not routing) so your packets get delivered, as the > crow flies. The question of name services. How often do you actually > use a domain name as an end user? Not

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Self-routing mesh networks have potential to sidestep this. Transistors are > small and cheap enough even today - the centralised communication > infrastructure is there so that you can be charged, not because technology > dictates that any more. With wi

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: > I just don't see how a single WiFi cloud will be able to scale very far. All > the WiFi users within "eyeshot" of each other are always going to contend > for bandwidth, no? It'll be just like the old half-duplex 10BaseT copper There is limited bandwi

Re: CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-12-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Dave Howe wrote: > without routing and name services, you have what amounts to a propriatory I believe I mentioned geographic routing (which is actually switching, and not routing) so your packets get delivered, as the crow flies. The question of name services. How often do y

CNN.com - WiFi activists on free Web crusade - Nov. 29, 2002 (fwd)

2002-11-30 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/11/21/yourtech.wifis/index.html -- We don't see things as they are, [EMAIL PROTECTED] we see them as we are. www.ssz.com