On Tuesday 14 January 2003 15:23, Bill Stewart wrote:
> ...You might as well argue that Esperanto** is just
> a rapidly evolved Indo-European.
> ** You probably _can't_ argue that about Logban; hacking the grammar
> to make it yacc-parseable is pretty radical surgery.
Allow me to introd
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At 2:56 PM -0800 on 1/14/03, Bill Stewart wrote:
> And while some of the edges have been bashed off of irregular
> verbs, if you'd a-been fixin' to talk about some verb forms being
> simpler, you shouldn't'a started out pickin' Southern grammar as an
At 02:48 PM 1/14/03 -0800, Michael Motyka wrote:
>I guess bifurcation points and speciation seem very clear because of
the aliasing
>problems in our sampling methods. The speciation exists but is prolly (
probably ) often
>fuzzier than we think. Almost everyone would say that an American Bison
and
At 12:47 PM 01/14/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Some of this is natural. I've adopted the southern "y'all" because
English has no plural third person and this
ambiguity is annoying when you're emailing to several people. Note also
the efficiency of the contraction.
"You" and "Y'all" a
Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>You don't even have to read 14th Cent. lit to experience that. Read
>"A
> Clockwork Orange" -- most folks find they read about 1/3 to 1/2 before
> they go back and start over. Gibson, at least the earlier stuff, like
> "Neuromancer", is a bit like
"Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>On Ken's
>> > All contemporary natural languages, like all biological species, are
>> > the same age.
>
>At first this parsed because I was thinking in the sense of
>"all organisms have ancestries going back the same amount of
>time". (And humans
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:36:46AM -0800, Michael Motyka wrote:
> Very true. Communicating with a 14th century Englishman would be difficult. I
> took a similar major's course with Robert Kaske in the 80's without the benefit of
> the side-by-side. It was as close to learning a new language as I
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 08:25 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
Tim May wrote:
All contemporary natural languages, like all biological species, are
the same age.
This statement is so silly it leaves me speechless...
Getting my breath back,
Of course some might change more slowly than others (
On Ken's
> > All contemporary natural languages, like all biological species, are
> > the same age.
At first this parsed because I was thinking in the sense of
"all organisms have ancestries going back the same amount of
time". (And humans aren't the 'goal' of evolution.) Not sure
if non-biohea
At 04:25 PM 01/14/2003 +, Ken Brown wrote:
> > All contemporary natural languages, like all biological species, are
> > the same age.
> This statement is so silly it leaves me speechless... []
> Nonsense. Icelandic is little changed from the Old Norse of 1000 A.D.
> Icelanders can easily read
Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>English, by contrast, is substantially different
>from just the Middle English of Chaucer, let alone the Old
English of
>Beowulf. I took a class in "The Canterbury Tales," in the
original
>with a side-by-side translation, from a Chaucer scholar. A
few
>r
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 07:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
At 4:25 PM -0500 on 1/9/03, Trei, Peter wrote:
Basque is unique, as you say
I remember someone saying somewhere, probably on PBS, that Basque is
*very*
old, paleolithic, and lots of popular mythology has cr
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
>
> At 4:25 PM -0500 on 1/9/03, Trei, Peter wrote:
>
> > Basque is unique, as you say
>
> I remember someone saying somewhere, probably on PBS, that Basque is *very*
> old, paleolithic, and lots of popular mythology has cropped up that it's
> the closest living relative t
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote:
> I'd also point out the need to be deliberately oblique. I'm not sure we
> aren't actually headed towards a time where any of us can be carted away for
> expressing how we really think. I also don't kid myself about whether
> "someone could be listening". A
At 4:25 PM -0500 on 1/9/03, Trei, Peter wrote:
> Basque is unique, as you say
I remember someone saying somewhere, probably on PBS, that Basque is *very*
old, paleolithic, and lots of popular mythology has cropped up that it's
the closest living relative to some other ur-language, which even
Ind
On Thursday, Jan 9, 2003, at 20:32 Europe/London, Tyler Durden wrote:
"Steve" wrote...
I would imagine so since ironically the Aryans came from what is now
Northern India
and Iran up to about 1000BC.
The word is even derived from Sanskrit.
Read the Rig Veda and break out the soma (if you kn
At 03:32 PM 1/9/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
>"Soma"? Despite the fact that I've read large chunks of the Rig Vedas,
I
>don't remember anything called "Soma" (unless this is a Brave New World
>Reference). Of course, the Bhagavad Gita is a subsection of the
>Mahabaratabut I don't imagine this
> Tyler Durden[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
> Most of the people from the British Isles over to Northern India speak a
> variant of the original Indo-European language, with Sanskrit and
> Lithuanian
> likely being the closest languages surviving. Some interesting exceptions
> (I
> believe)
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote:
> "Soma"? Despite the fact that I've read large chunks of the Rig Vedas, I
> don't remember anything called "Soma" (unless this is a Brave New World
> Reference). Of course, the Bhagavad Gita is a subsection of the
> Mahabaratabut I don't imagine this is
"Steve" wrote...
I would imagine so since ironically the Aryans came from what is now
Northern India
and Iran up to about 1000BC.
The word is even derived from Sanskrit.
Read the Rig Veda and break out the soma (if you know what it was).
"Soma"? Despite the fact that I've read large chunks of
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