Re: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-29 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Lucky Green wrote: > I concur. In fact, I was surprised that not a single one of the many P2P > solutions presented at the recent excellent CODECON made any mention of > support for IPv6, which can be easily be added to just about any P2P > application, while every presenter

Re: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-29 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So if your P2P application is IPv6 compatible, you can get a semi >permanent IPv6 IP automatically from a server, and thereafter do peer to >peer, just as if you were full, no kidding, on the internet. This nicely solves the problem with NATs, true.

RE: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-28 Thread jamesd
On 28 Apr 2002 at 16:20, Morlock Elloi wrote: > > How exactly does the introduction of IPV6 on a machine that is > > NAT-ted by the ISP who doesn't give shit about IPV6 help the > > situation ? James A. Donald: > To connect to the IPV6 world from inside a NAT network, you need a > machine that is

RE: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-28 Thread jamesd
-- On 28 Apr 2002 at 16:20, Morlock Elloi wrote: > How exactly does the introduction of IPV6 on a machine that is > NAT-ted by the ISP who doesn't give shit about IPV6 help the > situation ? To connect to the IPV6 world from inside a NAT network, you need a machine that is both inside and out

RE: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-28 Thread Morlock Elloi
> I concur. In fact, I was surprised that not a single one of the many P2P > solutions presented at the recent excellent CODECON made any mention of > support for IPv6, which can be easily be added to just about any P2P > application, while every presenter bemoaned the fact that the existence > of

RE: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-28 Thread georgemw
On 28 Apr 2002 at 0:15, Lucky Green wrote: > I concur. In fact, I was surprised that not a single one of the many P2P > solutions presented at the recent excellent CODECON made any mention of > support for IPv6, which can be easily be added to just about any P2P > application, while every present

RE: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-28 Thread Lucky Green
James wrote: > IPV6 to the rescue. > > Every network behind a NAT router should set up a 6to4 > tunnel, probably some time early in 2003. > > IPv6 is almost source code compatible with IPv4, so every > application should soon be recompiled to be IPv6 compatible. > > Every computer with a rece

Re: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-04-27 Thread jamesd
-- On 18 Feb 2002 at 14:37, Sampo Syreeni wrote: > we still need one of the machines to be outside a firewall. I > think what anonymous is describing is the situation when each > and every non-corporate customer is behind a firewall owned by > an ISP, corporations shield their employees behin

Re: p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-02-18 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Adam Back wrote: >and when someone wants to connect to it and can't they connect to the >super-node and the super-node tells the unreachable node over the >already open connection to connect back to the connecting machine. Of course, that approach could be extended do the po

p2p and asymmetric bandwidth (Re: Fear and Futility at CodeCon)

2002-02-18 Thread Adam Back
I think the asymmetric up/down speed is not as much a problem for peer2peer as anonymous fears. Morpheus has demonstrated that the approach of having a single request served by multiple servers works well. A cable modem users download speed can be merrily supplied by dozens of even dialup, or ot