Tim May wrote:
> Needless to say, but I will say it anyway, no game company or
> software company or music provider or anyone else will ever put in
> something so arcane as a "stego channel." We have to "get real" on
> these issues.
>
not a "big" company, but maybe a small one. there are these e
>>On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego
>>>data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not
>>>intended to carry a message.
>
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>>You're talking
>>about makin
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
>> Lossy compression.
>>
>> balance snipped, we need lossless compression, eh?
>
>nope we don't. remember that everyone said that .jpeg couldn't be used
>for stego for that same reason? then the first .jpeg-stego tools
>arrived.
The only problem with lossy co
>At 10:52 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>>For the sake of us audiophiles, please don't. MP3 is tinny and flat
>>at best;
>
>Then why are you 'audiophiles' traumatizing yourselves by listening
>to it?
>
> it ticks me off that most folks seem to hear it as "good
>>enough", because if most
>On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
>
>
>>I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego
>>data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not
>>intended to carry a message.
>
>For the sake of us audiophiles, please don't. MP3 is tinny and flat
>at best; it
At 10:52 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>For the sake of us audiophiles, please don't. MP3 is tinny and flat
>at best;
Then why are you 'audiophiles' traumatizing yourselves by listening
to it?
it ticks me off that most folks seem to hear it as "good
>enough", because if most folks h
At 07:05 AM 10/6/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego
>data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not
>intended to carry a message.
Problem is that repeatedly decoding an .mp3 into a .wav, then feeding
the .wav and t
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
>I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego
>data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not
>intended to carry a message.
For the sake of us audiophiles, please don't. MP3 is tinny and flat
at best; it ticks
jim bell wrote:
> I can see an excellent application for all of our old long-out-of-print
> LP's: Digitize them (assuming we still have an operational turntable!) and
> the noise level will be comfortably high. And, there is no digital
> "reference" for this audio anywhere, so comparisons will b
Reese wrote:
> >MP3 ?
>
> Lossy compression.
>
> balance snipped, we need lossless compression, eh?
nope we don't. remember that everyone said that .jpeg couldn't be used
for stego for that same reason? then the first .jpeg-stego tools
arrived.
At 02:31 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Tom Vogt wrote:
>
>I'm currently looking for a way to get encrypted data via stego to
>people who live in countries where crypto is illegal, and who may be
>watched. so just sending them a large graphic would likely arouse
>suspicion.
>
>the 2 best solutions I've come up
At 08:36 AM 10/5/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>the problem with porn is that it may be illegal in itself in the same
>countries.
Baby pictures, if there's a plausible interest on the receiving side.
MP3s of apolitical songs.
Tim May wrote:
> Music. CDs are rarely restricted...DATs are probably uncommon, though.
MP3 ?
let's mix that with an idea I've been discussing in private mail. here's
a proposal:
set up a service that you can subscribe to. say: www.dailymusic.com -
fill out a profile and we select a random nu
At 2:31 PM +0200 10/5/00, Tom Vogt wrote:
>I'm currently looking for a way to get encrypted data via stego to
>people who live in countries where crypto is illegal, and who may be
>watched. so just sending them a large graphic would likely arouse
>suspicion.
>
>the 2 best solutions I've come up wi
Tom Vogt wrote:
>
> I'm currently looking for a way to get encrypted data via stego to
> people who live in countries where crypto is illegal, and who may be
> watched. so just sending them a large graphic would likely arouse
> suspicion.
>
> the 2 best solutions I've come up with so far are por
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