Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread Sarad AV
hi, > > The government knows exactly what it's doing. It > wants to discourage the use of encryption by any > means necessary, because of sheer numbers. Does n't govt intervension always increase the numbers? > > Basically, the more messages that are encypted, > the more hardware (and therefore

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Not only is EM correct, but: * many attacks are possible without worrying about keylength. Got Scarfo? * NIST/NSA picked the lamest AES. If I told you what "lame" meant, I'd have to kill you. * (Lack of) User motivation (related to man-machine issues) is still the spooks' best friend. As well a

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 07:28 PM, anonimo arancio wrote: > This relates to an issue I've wanted to discuss with "Cypherpunks" for > several years. > Over the years, I've seen several commentators (including Timothy May) > appear suprised when discussing the US's encryption export pol

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread Eric Murray
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 02:28:26AM -, anonimo arancio wrote: [..] > But I am wondering if Cypherpunks have mentioned the 'obvious'. > > The government knows exactly what it's doing. It wants to discourage the use of >encryption by any means necessary, because of sheer numbers. > Basically,

Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread anonimo arancio
This relates to an issue I've wanted to discuss with "Cypherpunks" for several years. Over the years, I've seen several commentators (including Timothy May) appear suprised when discussing the US's encryption export policies. The basic argument is that, if good encryption is available overseas or

UK Censors, Shayler, Bin Laden

2002-10-10 Thread Major Variola (ret)
These folks seem to be subbing for JY while he's out :-) http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0210/S00061.htm British Press Gagged Over MI6's #100,000 bin Laden Wednesday, 9 October 2002, 10:24 am Article: www.UnansweredQuestions.org Unanswered Questions: Thinking For O

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread David Howe
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 07:28 PM, anonimo arancio wrote: > The basic argument is that, if good encryption is available overseas > or easily downloadable, it doesn't make sense to make export of it > illegal. Nope. The biggest name in software right now is Microsoft, who wasn't willing t

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread Tyler Durden
"I assume everyone knows the little arrangement that lotus reached with the NSA over its encrypted secure email?" I'm new here, so do tell if I am wrong. Are you referring to the two levels of Encryption available in Bogus Notes? (ie, the North American and the International, the International

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread Sunder
"B" --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\

Re: UK Censors, Shayler, Bin Laden

2002-10-10 Thread Tim May
> British Press Gagged Over MI6's #100,000 bin Laden > Wednesday, 9 October 2002, 10:24 am > Article: www.UnansweredQuestions.org > ... > I first noticed that the Guardian article I had earlier posted on > my website had > disappeared. Already aware that Blair may well have ordere

Re: Echelon-like...

2002-10-10 Thread David Howe
>> "I assume everyone knows the little arrangement that lotus >> reached with the NSA over its encrypted secure email?" > I'm new here, so do tell if I am wrong. Are you referring to the two levels > of Encryption available in Bogus Notes? More or less, yes. Lotus knew nobody would buy a 40 bit ve

Re: Trojan-modified Sendmail floating around - 8.12.6 - Since Sept. 28th or earlier.

2002-10-10 Thread Ben Laurie
Bill Stewart wrote: > Somebody backdoored the source code for Sendmail on the official server. > So if you recompile from scratch, your sendmail is 0wned. > Another reason not to run mail systems as root In this case, as I understand it, it bites when you compile. So, its another reason not

Re: Trojan-modified Sendmail floating around - 8.12.6 - Since Sept. 28th or earlier.

2002-10-10 Thread Eric Murray
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:01:21PM +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: > Bill Stewart wrote: > > Somebody backdoored the source code for Sendmail on the official server. > > So if you recompile from scratch, your sendmail is 0wned. > > Another reason not to run mail systems as root > > In this case, as