Re: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:54 AM 3/13/03 -0500, Sunder wrote: > >Hey, we're fighting for freedom after all, the freedom to suppress the >truth... So how soon before France is on the Axis of Evil? :) Well, if they're giving info to Mr. Hussein their embassy there could be NIMA'd, as in "oops, we hit the Chinese consu

war criminals, all of em...

2003-03-13 Thread Cardenas
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:22:09AM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: > Sunder writes: > > > Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take > > radical new steps in media relations - 'unauthorised' journalists will be > > shot at. Speaking on The Sunday Show on Ireland's RTE1 last sunday ve

RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: > 1. An journalist doing what he was specifically told not to do? Most probably. Those pesky civilians. No backbone, no way to gag them by extreme sanctioning after perfunctory tribunal. > 2. An Iraqi or Al-Queda forward fire director, calling in coordinat

RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:04 PM 3/13/03 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > >Is it: > >1. An journalist doing what he was specifically told not to do? >2. An Iraqi or Al-Queda forward fire director, calling in coordinates >for a VX loaded missile attack on your side. I'd think that the troops would explain this to the report

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
04:24 AM 3/12/03 -0800, alan wrote: >It sounds like there is an opertunity here for the right person. Open up >a place to "clean your clothes" of all those little RFID tags and other >buglets people are so interested in attaching to any object (nailed down >or not). Our Premium service includes

Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Sunder
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29750.html Airstrike! The Pentagon simplifies media relations By John Lettice Posted: 13/03/2003 at 17:10 GMT Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take radical new steps in media relations - 'unauthorised' journalists will be shot at. Sp

RE: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> Sunder[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29750.html > > Airstrike! The Pentagon simplifies media relations > By John Lettice > Posted: 13/03/2003 at 17:10 GMT > > Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take > radical new steps in media relatio

Re: Unauthorized Journalists to be shot at

2003-03-13 Thread Eric Cordian
Sunder writes: > Should war in the Gulf commence, the Pentagon proposes to take > radical new steps in media relations - 'unauthorised' journalists will be > shot at. Speaking on The Sunday Show on Ireland's RTE1 last sunday veteran > war reporter Kate Adie said she had been warned by a senior Pen

Fatherland Security measures more important than Bennetton tags!

2003-03-13 Thread Tim May
I'm much more concerned about "Fatherland Security" police state measures, already happening and on the verge of being escalated sharply, than I am in whether Bennetton or Prada or Rolex think they can deploy RFID tags. If they can, their business. Of much greater concern to me: The PATRIOT Ac

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:24:35AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: | On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Adam Shostack wrote: | | > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:22:14AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: | > The other motivator is liability. If I build the mugger's little | > helper, a PDA attachement that scans for real prada

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Tyler Durden
"If I build the mugger's little helper, a PDA attachement that scans for real prada bags, then perhaps the RFID tag will be removed at the counter after the first lawsuit." Nice! Possibly, it might not even be necessary for the "Little Helper" to read the tag, only detect its presence. Counterfe

Re: FC: TradeSports.com lets you bet on Saddam's survivability

2003-03-13 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:59 AM 3/13/2003 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: At 01:43 AM 03/12/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh forward to his Politech list: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:28:57 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Buy a contract on Saddam's life At TradeSports you can buy futur

Re: peppercoin

2003-03-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Anyone have any opinions on Peppercoin, a micropayment system? I don't recall > it being discussed here before. http://www.peppercoin.com/peppercoin_is.html Sounds like Rivist and Micali want to get rich. I wish them luck. When the patents issue may

Re: Claim: Quietness of computers will win out over TEMPEST surveillance

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> Rational fear of LN is a good thing, though. Minor splashes aren't bad, > but enough can cause serious burns. You talk about what I call "respect". :) > I also worked with uranium in ceramics, though they were not > "uranium-based" (though sometimes we thought they were!). Black fragile thing

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Adam Shostack wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:22:14AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > The other motivator is liability. If I build the mugger's little > helper, a PDA attachement that scans for real prada bags, then perhaps > the RFID tag will be removed at the counter after

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:57:27AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: | "If I build the mugger's little | helper, a PDA attachement that scans for real prada bags, then perhaps | the RFID tag will be removed at the counter after the first lawsuit." | | Nice! Possibly, it might not even be necessary for th

RE: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> One thing I worry about is a limited access tag - one which only > responds when tickled with the right stimulus. Such a tag could be > undetectable to the taggee. A nonlinear junction detector could be a reliable way to find it. You won't find a tag hidden in an electronics device (NLJDs are h

peppercoin

2003-03-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
Anyone have any opinions on Peppercoin, a micropayment system? I don't recall it being discussed here before. http://www.peppercoin.com/peppercoin_is.html -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:22:14AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: | Some research is being done in RSA Labs to produce more | privacy-enhanced protocols for RFIDs, but it's a long way from | publication, and its unclear what would motivate a tag manufacturer | to include them. The biggest motivators I

Re: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Tyler Durden
"Anybody with a brain, being a de-facto criminal or only a de-jure one, will find some of the ridiculously easy ways to acquire one without giving out a name, ..." Well, what they should do is obvious. Post a big sign at the point of sale saying "Use of phone cards for terrorist activities is ille

RE: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> alan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: > > > > Regarding TEMPEST shielding - there is another, complementary approach > > > > for > > > shielding: jamming. There are vendors selling devices that drown the > RF > > > emissions of computer equipment in noise,

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:21 PM 03/12/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote: They are entitled to set their alarms to trigger on CDs in my laptop case, books from other stores, etc. But they are not contractually entitled in any way to cause me to reverse my direction and return inside their store for a meaningless examination

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Neil Johnson
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:13 pm, Neil Johnson wrote: > RFID technology for libraries ... > > http://www.demco.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+LWDCWEB+LWDC025+PRD+ENG+FUNCP >ARMS+ZZWSESSID(A0200):29762251880047332521+ZZWNAVPAG(A0100):PROMO+DATESEQ(A0 >140):31210321918+FC_AZZWHDRCMP:DEMCO_HEADER+FC_

RE: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Vincent Penquerc'h
> careful not to leap to conclusions about banknotes being a location > finder. Not a location finder, but an origin tracer. The good think about cash is that is is untraceable. Unless there are machines that can quickly read the serials, and cheap enough to be widespread. RFID readers will have

content control mafia is at it again

2003-03-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
It's this time of the year again, apparently. http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030312-120912-6894r Analysis: Germany's copyright levy By Sam Vaknin UPI Senior Business Correspondent >From the Business & Economics Desk Published 3/12/2003 12:30 PM View printer-friendly version SKOPJE, Mace

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 12:56:15PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > Various lengths of metallic conductors are already inside various > banknotes. This is NOT the same technology as RFID. I don't disagree > about it being a concern, and an area for study and experiment, but be > careful not to leap to con

Re: FC: TradeSports.com lets you bet on Saddam's survivability

2003-03-13 Thread Bill Stewart
At 01:43 AM 03/12/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh forward to his Politech list: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:28:57 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Buy a contract on Saddam's life At TradeSports you can buy futures contracts for all sorts of sports, plus Sadda

Re: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Gabriel Rocha
On Thu, Mar 13, at 12:41AM, Lucky Green wrote: | What Swisscom's EasyRoam pre-paid SIMs offered that no other pre-paid | service that I am aware of offered, at least as of a year ago, was | roaming in nearly every country that has GSM service. Most pre-paid SIMs | are limited to roa

The darkest side of ID theft

2003-03-13 Thread gann
(apologies if this has been discussed already) The darkest side of ID theft - When impostors are arrested, victims get criminal records... Malcolm Byrd was home with his two children on a Saturday night when a knock came at the door. Three Rock County, Wis., sheriff’s officers were there with a

Claim: Quietness of computers will win out over TEMPEST surveillance

2003-03-13 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: The closest encounter I had with superconductors was when I was helping a friend with some measurements on some uranium-based ceramics. Was both brief and nice, and I lost fear of liquid nitrogen there. Rational fear of LN is a good

Re: Orwell's "Victory" goods come home

2003-03-13 Thread Peter Fairbrother
J.A. Terranson wrote: > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/sprj.irq.fries/index.html > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings > changed the name of "french fries" to "freedom fries," in a culinary rebuke > of France stemming from anger over the cou

Re: CDR: Re: Orwell's "Victory" goods come home

2003-03-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:54:13PM -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings > > changed the name of "french fries" to "freedom fries," in a culinary rebuke > > of France stemming

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Neil Johnson
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 06:24 am, alan wrote: > It sounds like there is an opertunity here for the right person. Open up > a place to "clean your clothes" of all those little RFID tags and other > buglets people are so interested in attaching to any object (nailed down > or not). Gives new mea

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Neil Johnson
RFID technology for libraries ... http://www.demco.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+LWDCWEB+LWDC025+PRD+ENG+FUNCPARMS+ZZWSESSID(A0200):29762251880047332521+ZZWNAVPAG(A0100):PROMO+DATESEQ(A0140):31210321918+FC_AZZWHDRCMP:DEMCO_HEADER+FC_AZZWNEWZON:ADM+FC_AZZWNAVPAG:PRODUCT+FC_AZZWNEWHDR:DEMCO_HEADER+FC

Re: Claim: Quietness of computers will win out over TEMPEST surveillance

2003-03-13 Thread Bill Frantz
At 3:34 PM -0800 3/12/03, Tim May wrote: >Truly sensitive communications may be best done on laptops, even >laptops in metal mesh bags. (Either with one's head poked into the bag, >or a bag big enough to enclose the user and laptop, etc.) You probably want to use a fiber optics cable for the link

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:24 AM -0800 on 3/12/03, alan wrote: > Open up > a place to "clean your clothes" of all those little RFID tags Oxpecker.com seems to be for sale, for a price... :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Fa

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Tyler Durden
"1972-73 doing Josephson junction experiments with superconducting quantum-interferometric devices, aka SQUIDs" Isn't that a little early for SQUIDs? -TD _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.

Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Summary: Members of al-Qaeda were using prepaid cellphone accounts purchased in Switzerland. Swiss goons figured it out, and now Switzerland wants to register buyers of prepaid cards. My note: It will hurt only the low-grade people. Anybody with a brain, being a de-facto criminal or only a de-jure

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> > Hadn't knew about mu metal. Thanks. :) Could be a nice thing for EM > > shielding, especially of things like transformers. > > Don't go jumping into the abyss without some knowledge. Right. Later I found mu-metal is just a fancy name for Permalloy which I worked with some time ago. > (ObCrede

RE: Switzerland: Another hit for phone privacy

2003-03-13 Thread Lucky Green
Thomas Shaddack wrote: > If anything, Twist (or how they changed the name after > T-Mobile took over and screwed with things) > (www.t-mobile.cz), Go (www.eurotel.cz), and > Oskarta (Oscard, > www.oskarmobil.cz) prepaid cards are quite common here. What Swisscom's EasyRoam pre-paid SIMs offered