Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 1:07 PM -0400 8/26/03, Adam Shostack wrote: >John, you write like a Republican speechwriter on a bad trip. Give him *all* of Ben Stein's money... :-). But then, later on, he says this... On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:45:55PM -0700, John Young wrote: >Markets suck, that's what makes them so appe

Some new problems uncovered for short latency mixes

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Schear
Probabilistic Analysis of Anonymity by Vitaly Shmatikov Abstract: We present a formal analysis technique for probabilistic security properties of peer-to-peer communication systems based on random message routing among members. The behavior of group members and the adversary is modeled as a disc

[johnmacsgroup] Follow up to German Anonymizer no longer anonymous

2003-08-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:11 PM 8/26/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: >PS: Anyone else getting tired of the term "terror"? Back when we all hated You're out of the loop. Here's how you play the propoganda drinking game: You and a friend get a bottle of and watch a Bush speech. *You* drink whenever he says "terror"; *

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:11 PM 8/26/2003 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: So... how many people does one have to terrorize in order to be a terrorist? PS: Anyone else getting tired of the term "terror"? Back when we all hated Osama bin Laden (remember that guy?) Osama was promoted from "Terrorist" to "terror mastermind"

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Tyler Durden
So... how many people does one have to terrorize in order to be a terrorist? PS: Anyone else getting tired of the term "terror"? Back when we all hated Osama bin Laden (remember that guy?) Osama was promoted from "Terrorist" to "terror mastermind" to "lord of terror" and so on. I'm sick of being

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Adam Shostack
John, you write like a Republican speechwriter on a bad trip. On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:45:55PM -0700, John Young wrote: | Nonshit, Robert, Ray's an organ-eating anarchist not a | vapid tea-sip socialist. A while back Ray yanked a | capitalist apologist's lawyer's cold dead dried nut heart | fr

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread John Young
Nonshit, Robert, Ray's an organ-eating anarchist not a vapid tea-sip socialist. A while back Ray yanked a capitalist apologist's lawyer's cold dead dried nut heart from behind a Kevlar diamond-studded vest and lipped and tongued it like a lady's freeze-dried private then swallowed it whole, bur

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Sunder
>From the "If she weighs as much as a duck, she's a witch" department: You're accusing me, of being a socialist, therefore you are not with me, so you're against me, therefore you're on the side of the terrorists, therefore, you are a terrorist. :^) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos-

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:25 AM -0400 8/26/03, Sunder wrote: >I'm "afraid" of the oil companies Ah. You're afraid of markets. That makes you a socialist. *You*'re a terrorist, Sunder. ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farq

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

2003-08-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:16:32PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > >I don't get it -- exactly what do they think they would be taxing? 9% of > > what? The bits and bytes that flow thru? The owners already paid a sales tax > > on the hardware, or is this

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

2003-08-26 Thread Sunder
Yes, they'll tax 9% of the packets. This means that out of 100 packets, only 91 of them will go to other hosts, the other 9 packets must be routed to the FL tax board in the form of ICMP ECHO requests. However, be advised that if you have ever lived or thought about living in Florida, this tax a

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Sunder
Why the republicans of course. :) --- BEGING Sarcastic Lunatic RANT and RAVE V3.2 Me, I'm "afraid" of the oil companies, they're constantly raising the price of gas, so I'm going to call them "price gouging terrorists." I'd happily switch to another brand, but it seems all them are raising

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

2003-08-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
I don't get it -- exactly what do they think they would be taxing? 9% of what? The bits and bytes that flow thru? The owners already paid a sales tax on the hardware, or is this like a yearly property tax? Bizarre! On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 06:35:47PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > http://yro.slashd

Re: Slashdot | Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs (fwd)

2003-08-26 Thread Jim Dixon
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: >I don't get it -- exactly what do they think they would be taxing? 9% of > what? The bits and bytes that flow thru? The owners already paid a sales tax > on the hardware, or is this like a yearly property tax? > Bizarre! A bit tax has been proposed i

Re: Schneier at toorcon 2003

2003-08-26 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:44 PM 8/25/03 -0700, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: >On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> I'm told by an organizer that >> Bruce Schneier will be speaking at toorcon in San Diego this year. >> See www.toorcon.org for info. > >This is of interest why? Because it was previously untrue,

Re: [dave@farber.net: [IP] blackmail / real world stego use]

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:36 PM 8/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: To be real clever, he did not approach the website >with the car adds directly. Police found out the add was approached >trough a US anonymizer called SURFOLA.com. SURFOLA.com claims on their >website : >"We will not give out your name, residence address, or

Re: Is it time to kill the JAP backdoor cretins and their families?

2003-08-26 Thread Adam Shostack
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:27:20PM -0700, Len Sassaman wrote: | However, even when setting aside the issue that our understanding of the | math involved may be flawed, JAP quickly becomes less appealing choice | once the other factors are considered. | | University / government funded research rel

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:22 PM 08/25/2003 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 4:40 PM -0400 8/25/03, Sunder wrote: >So what are the bets as to how soon they'll start calling democrats >terrorists? :) Aren't they? :-) Nah - who's afraid of Democrats?

Re: Is it time to kill the JAP backdoor cretins and their families?

2003-08-26 Thread Len Sassaman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Tim May wrote: > It would be easy for me to say that all of the operators connected with > JAP should be killed, either necklaced and left to burn in their > driveways, with perhaps their families (children, siblings, parents) > also tortured to death, or at least that the off

Re: Is it time to kill the JAP backdoor cretins and their families?

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Schear
At 11:47 PM 8/25/2003 -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: So, to the question of, is a private company better than a research lab? Probably. But could a privacte company comprimise its users without imploding? Probably. The right system is probably something like Tarzan, running low-latency traffic ins

Re: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:40 PM -0400 8/25/03, Sunder wrote: >So what are the bets as to how soon they'll start calling democrats >terrorists? :) Aren't they? :-) Cheers, RAH They're socialists, at the very least... -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

RE: "domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks

2003-08-26 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Patrick wrote: > leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. Is spiking a tree? Exactly whose tree is it anyway? What happens when the last whale is in the harpoon site, is it ok to ruin the shot? It's not as simple as you make it out to be. The re

Hangar 18 Weekly Social

2003-08-26 Thread Jim Choate
Asymmetric Clustering... Distributed Name Space... Global Sign-on... Guerrilla Networking... Open Source Technology... Do these words make your heart beat faster and your breath go shallow? If