Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread Anonymous
Someone wrote: > > At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: RAH, if you want to anonymize a quoted email, it helps if you remove the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. > >What the hell does an article about gypsy > >mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? > > I plead anarchic markets, m'lo

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
I actually found the mechanics' article quite interesting. I think it's what anarchy starts to look like in the real world...ie, there are still laws 'somewhere', but they end up functioning like a 'value add' or quality control. I've argued on numerous occasions that NYC already has some very

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Justin
On 2004-12-21T10:38:10-0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: > > > put it this way it starts to make some sense. In other words, avoiding > > travel whenever possible will (when added to sheeple starting to do the same > > because of all the terible screening stori

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
[Note, I'm on the list, and I don't need two copies of every message in this thread] On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 06:34 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > > Agreed, if you want > > > And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what it boils down t

Re: RAH's postings.

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:23 AM -0500 12/21/04, Somebody wrote: >What the hell does an article about gypsy >mechanics have to do with cypherpunks? I plead anarchic markets, m'lord. Emerging phenomena, and all that, in spite all regulation to the contrary. Which was why I sent the traffic thing as well. No laws (or r

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:57:08AM -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > If you *need* to get to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc., driving, riding > Greyhound, or riding Amtrak are NOT OPTIONS. Emigration is always an option, though. Quite a few have done that already. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leit

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: > put it this way it starts to make some sense. In other words, avoiding > travel whenever possible will (when added to sheeple starting to do the same > because of all the terible screening stories) eventually start putting some > squeeze on the airlines.

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I pass on them, rather than take part in the police state that is todays air system. You have the

Re: Flaw with lava lamp entropy source

2004-12-21 Thread John Kelsey
>From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Dec 18, 2004 2:51 PM >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Flaw with lava lamp entropy source .. >These days the video entropy source is not a lava lamp, but a >lens cap - in the dark, the ccds generate significant thermal >n

Paging Black Unicorn (was RE: Costs of Money Laundering Enforcement)

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Contact him directly, please... Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text From: "Astengo, F. (Fabrizio)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'R.A. Hettinga'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Costs of Money Laundering Enforcement Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:15:42 +0200 Hi Robert, Have the link here, bu

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 11:56 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... [J.A. Terranson wrote:] > >Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system > >or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I > >pas

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread John Kelsey
>From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Dec 19, 2004 4:23 PM >Subject: Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts >Before Throwing You in a Cell at the >Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put >You There? .. >Funny how most Americans only wake up after it happens to t

Paging Black Unicorn, Part 2: Money Laundering in the Geodesic Economy

2004-12-21 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Here's the article in question... Cheers, RAH --- JIBC Hettinga's Best of the Month Money Laundering in the Geodesic Economy From Robert Hettinga Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.shipwright.com Robert Hettinga is a financial cry

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: > Well, there's a TINY little hole in your logic here... > > >Scale of distance is the only difference. Either you support the system > >or you don't. I don't: I either drive to jobs (charging for mileage) or I > >pass on them, rather than take part in t

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread Tyler Durden
JAT wrote... You keep asserting this, but at the same time fail to provide an example. Please show how flying "can easily be a requirement, not an option". One legitimate example will suffice. Later. (Actually, I didn't 'keep asserting this', but that's a separate matter) So, your position is th

Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004

2004-12-21 Thread John Kelsey
>The difference here is that Bad_Guy is visiting the >country for the first time. Now, there are fewer >questions to ask. But that's a common enough situation that the questioners are going to be ready for it. And I bet a lot of the point of their questioning is just to see if they detect signs

Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004

2004-12-21 Thread Sarad AV
--- John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I say I'm a > chemical engineer, it's not going to take much depth > of knowledge for the questioner to find out I don't > know things any chemical engineer would know, for > example. (It wouldn't be hard to come up with some > computerized syste

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-21 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > Agreed, if you want And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what it boils down to. You *want* things your own way, but you are too fucking spoiled to fight fo it - so instead you whine and moan. Put up or shut up. Either you fight

Re: International meet on cryptology in Chennai

2004-12-21 Thread Sarad AV
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