Re: [s-t] needle in haystack digest #3 (fwd from Nick.Barnes@pobox.com)

2003-11-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:22 PM 11/6/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: I heard ten years ago that the National Semi fab on-site was a lowly 2-micron fab. Which was enough for keying material. And rad-hard circuits for their buddies at the NRO. And 2 mics is fine for certain esoteric processes. Got GaAs? That's done on 6

Re: [s-t] needle in haystack digest #3 (fwd from Nick.Barnes@pobox.com)

2003-11-07 Thread Dave Howe
Tim May wrote: On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Dave Howe wrote: No Such Agency doesn't fab much of anything; they can't afford to. They and their ilk are far more interested in things like FPGAs and adapting numerical algorithms to COTS SIMD hardware, such as graphics processors

Re: [s-t] needle in haystack digest #3 (fwd from Nick.Barnes@pobox.com)

2003-11-07 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 09:56 PM, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:22 PM 11/6/03 -0800, Tim May wrote: I heard ten years ago that the National Semi fab on-site was a lowly 2-micron fab. Which was enough for keying material. And rad-hard circuits

Re: [s-t] needle in haystack digest #3 (fwd from Nick.Barnes@pobox.com)

2003-11-07 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:00 PM 11/6/03 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: I guess I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't hypothesizing an attack against a fab. I was saying that The focus on Thomspon-trojaned tools and Chipworks-style reverse engineering is silly. There are plenty of folks who need green cards, or whose

Re: [s-t] needle in haystack digest #3 (fwd from Nick.Barnes@pobox.com)

2003-11-07 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Dave Howe wrote: No Such Agency doesn't fab much of anything; they can't afford to. They and their ilk are far more interested in things like FPGAs and adapting numerical algorithms to COTS SIMD hardware, such as graphics processors (a la

Re: [s-t] needle in haystack digest #3 (fwd from Nick.Barnes@pobox.com)

2003-11-06 Thread Dave Howe
No Such Agency doesn't fab much of anything; they can't afford to. They and their ilk are far more interested in things like FPGAs and adapting numerical algorithms to COTS SIMD hardware, such as graphics processors (a la http://www.gpgpu.org/). Why do they have their own fab plant if they