Re: TCPA/Palladium user interst vs third party interest (Re: responding to claims about TCPA)

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Laurie
Adam Back wrote: > The remote attesation is the feature which is in the interests of > third parties. > > I think if this feature were removed the worst of the issues the > complaints are around would go away because the remaining features > would be under the control of the user, and there would

TCPA/Palladium user interst vs third party interest (Re: responding to claims about TCPA)

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Back
The remote attesation is the feature which is in the interests of third parties. I think if this feature were removed the worst of the issues the complaints are around would go away because the remaining features would be under the control of the user, and there would be no way for third parties

Re: responding to claims about TCPA

2002-08-12 Thread AARG! Anonymous
David Wagner wrote: > To respond to your remark about bias: No, bringing up Document Revocation > Lists has nothing to do with bias. It is only right to seek to understand > the risks in advance. I don't understand why you seem to insinuate > that bringing up the topic of Document Revocation Lis

Re: responding to claims about TCPA

2002-08-11 Thread AARG! Anonymous
AARG! wrote: > I asked Eric Murray, who knows something about TCPA, what he thought > of some of the more ridiculous claims in Ross Anderson's FAQ (like the > SNRL), and he didn't respond. I believe it is because he is unwilling > to publicly take a position in opposition to such a famous and res

Re: responding to claims about TCPA

2002-08-11 Thread David Wagner
AARG! Anonymous wrote: >In fact, you are perfectly correct that Microsoft architectures would >make it easy at any time to implement DRL's or SNRL's. They could do >that tomorrow! They don't need TCPA. So why blame TCPA for this feature? The relevance should be obvious. Without TCPA/Palladiu

Re: responding to claims about TCPA

2002-08-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 04:02 AM 8/10/2002 -0700, John Gilmore wrote: >"The transaction"? What transaction? They were talking about the >owner getting reliable reporting on the security of their applications >and OS's and -- uh -- oh yeah, buying music or video over the Internet. > >Part of their misleading techniq

Re: responding to claims about TCPA

2002-08-11 Thread Derek Atkins
AARG!Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't agree with this distinction. If I use a smart card chip that > has a private key on it that won't come off, is that protecting me from > third parties, or vice versa? If I run a TCPA-enhanced Gnutella that Who owns the key? If you bought th

Re: responding to claims about TCPA

2002-08-10 Thread John Gilmore
> I asked Eric Murray, who knows something about TCPA, what he thought > of some of the more ridiculous claims in Ross Anderson's FAQ (like the > SNRL), and he didn't respond. I believe it is because he is unwilling > to publicly take a position in opposition to such a famous and respected > figu