Re: [darktable-dev] Plugin-SDK

2018-11-05 Thread Per Inge Oestmoen
Heiko Bauke wrote: But note that dt has already plenty of powerful modules. Imho > dt would probably benefit more from enhanced performance and user experience than from new modules. High-quality documentation demonstrating whole workflows and how modules interact is also rare. In my

Re: [darktable-dev] Plugin-SDK

2018-11-05 Thread Heiko Bauke
Hi Jan, Am Montag, 5. November 2018 schrieb Jan Ingwer Baer: > It would be nice to have a thing like a 'Plugin-SDK' to enable more > users to create their own IOP-Modules. To make the development of > IOP-modules much more easy it should contain : > - all the needed headers and libraries > -

Re: [darktable-dev] Lens recognition of Tamron 24-70 mm lens in lens correction module of darktable version 2.4.4

2018-11-05 Thread Sturm Flut
Hi, libexiv2 is shipped as a part of Linux Mint and not part of darktable. Debian still only ships version 0.26 in the "experimental" branch, Ubuntu depends on Debian, and Linux Mint depends on Ubuntu. So you would have to build and install exiv2 manually. kind regards, Simon Am 05.11.2018 um

Re: [darktable-dev] Collect images module

2018-11-05 Thread Sam
I took that quote from your original email, which you say is from the manual. The [from;to] that it mentions is the same as the [;] in the tooltip, which I assume is the semicolon that you are talking about. On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 20:59, Bruce Williams wrote: > I don't know! Maybe. The user

Re: [darktable-dev] Collect images module

2018-11-05 Thread Sam
Is it not the semicolon in "An expression in the form [from*;*to] selects a range of values." that you are referring to? On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 19:50, Bruce Williams wrote: > Hey guys, > I had a viewer ask me about the use of the semicolon when it comes to > using the [Date] modifier in the

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Andrey [11-05-18 15:02]: > New feature (filters stack widget) to rearrange filters, pin filter to > apply changes in place where it was initiated :) > *It's not clear where the last change (on top of the history) is applied. > > > пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:29, William Ferguson : > > > I like

[darktable-dev] Noise Profile

2018-11-05 Thread Andreas Schneider
/darktable/ILCE-7M3/noise_result.pdf https://xor.cryptomilk.org/darktable/ILCE-7M3/darktable-noiseprofile-20181105.tar.gz Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Schneider a...@cryptomilk.org GPG-ID: 8DFF53E18F2ABC8D8F3C92237EE0FC4DCC014E3D

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
New feature (filters stack widget) to rearrange filters, pin filter to apply changes in place where it was initiated :) *It's not clear where the last change (on top of the history) is applied. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:29, William Ferguson : > I like the last photo. I think that really

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Moritz Moeller
On 5.11.18 09:34, Rolf Meyerhoff wrote: if you have followed the UI refactoring discussion lately then you will have noticed that the intended target audience for DT are programmers and graphics nerds who really know what each module does, [...] Rolf nails the issue. The basic problem this

[darktable-dev] Collect images module

2018-11-05 Thread Bruce Williams
Hey guys, I had a viewer ask me about the use of the semicolon when it comes to using the [Date] modifier in the Collect Images module. Section 2.3.2.1 of the manual contains the following paragraph: "Attributes with numerical values as well as date and time attributes can be used in combi-

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread William Ferguson
I like the last photo. I think that really captures the essence of darktable. :-) I stopped at the denoise and didn't really set out to finish processing the image, so the colors on the bear aren't the same. However, the detail is still there and wasn't affected by the denoising. I did blow

[darktable-dev] Plugin-SDK

2018-11-05 Thread Jan Ingwer Baer
It would be nice to have a thing like a 'Plugin-SDK' to enable more users to create their own IOP-Modules. To make the development of IOP-modules much more easy it should contain : - all the needed headers and libraries - some documentation: IOP-Interface, description of pixel-pipeline - some

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Jan Ingwer Baer
After reading all the posts in this thread i want send my own view to this. RT and DT are both great tools with different pros and cons. The most important points for me are: RT is much simpler to use and the denoise-modul gives great results without hour-long parameter tweaking or years of

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Rolf Meyerhoff
Hi, I'm a programmer, graphics nerd and photographer so DT fits me very well. :-) I really like to have all the power of DT available when I need it. Recently I had to edit over 1500 scans of very degenerated photos from the 70s and DT did a fantastic job that no other raw converter could have

Re: [darktable-dev] Lens recognition of Tamron 24-70 mm lens in lens correction module of darktable version 2.4.4

2018-11-05 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Monday, 5 November 2018 17:39:16 CET J. Kilchert wrote: > Hi, Hi Joachim, > *This would require darktable to use **Exiv2 v0.26* > > /*How can I get *//Exiv2 v0.26 into my * *//*darktable 2.4.4 > installation?*/ you should talk to the darktable maintainer of your Linux distribution.

Re: [darktable-dev] Camera recognition EOS 6D Mk II in Base curve module of darktable version 2.4.4

2018-11-05 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Monday, 5 November 2018 17:39:03 CET J. Kilchert wrote: > Hi, Hi Joachim, > I'm using darktable 2.4.4 in a Linux Mint distro. > > achim@achim-N56VZ ~ $ dpkg-query -W darktable > darktable1:2.4.4-0pmjdebruijn1~xenial > > Distributor ID:LinuxMint > Description:Linux Mint 18.3

[darktable-dev] Lens recognition of Tamron 24-70 mm lens in lens correction module of darktable version 2.4.4

2018-11-05 Thread J. Kilchert
Hi, I'm using darktable 2.4.4 in a Linux Mint distro. achim@achim-N56VZ ~ $ dpkg-query -W darktable darktable    1:2.4.4-0pmjdebruijn1~xenial Distributor ID:    LinuxMint Description:    Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia Release:    18.3 Codename:    sylvia (In the lens correction module (EOS 6D Mk II

[darktable-dev] Camera recognition EOS 6D Mk II in Base curve module of darktable version 2.4.4

2018-11-05 Thread J. Kilchert
Hi, I'm using darktable 2.4.4 in a Linux Mint distro. achim@achim-N56VZ ~ $ dpkg-query -W darktable darktable    1:2.4.4-0pmjdebruijn1~xenial Distributor ID:    LinuxMint Description:    Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia Release:    18.3 Codename:    sylvia In the base curve module EOS 6D Mk II is not

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
Thank you for the detailed answer. It is worth placing on DT's main page. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 17:47, Rolf Meyerhoff : > Hi, > > if you have followed the UI refactoring discussion lately then you will > have noticed that the intended target audience for DT are programmers > and graphics nerds

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Hi Rolf, I am not a programmer nor a graphic nerd. I simply take potographs in my spare time. I like dt because I know I have in my hands a powerful tool. No matter if I use it 100% or 10% I know dt is SO powerful thereby I have a large margin for improvement. Moreover I feel curious and I like

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Rolf Meyerhoff
Hi, if you have followed the UI refactoring discussion lately then you will have noticed that the intended target audience for DT are programmers and graphics nerds who really know what each module does, in which order the modules have to be edited, how the modules interact with each other, when

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
You are the man! At last I saw it with my own eyes. I will try to repeat this but I would appreciate for preset to learn on. Thanks, Dominik! пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 16:30, Dominik Markiewicz : > Hi, > > > The issue with darktable is that nobody can make the image as clear, as > with RT or DPP.

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread johannes hanika
..that old picture again? it has a ton of noise in green. fwiw i like what i can do in dt better than the fine grained noise that stays in the OP's RT version. but as pascal pointed out, it seems to be a waste of time to comment on this here. noise preferences are very subjective, and yes, by all

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I like DT. I've spent a lot of time exploring related materials, trying to get most of nr. I prepared a demonstrative picture and asked people to teach me (time to time - forums and irc channel - last 2 years). Yes, I keep using DPP. What is the point of my last try here you think?! To sit on a

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Dominik Markiewicz
Hi, > The issue with darktable is that nobody can make the image as clear, as with RT or DPP. With all of it's power and all of competitors' 2-slider weakness. I believe it's quite good: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BSQA2Q49RwLVcs9TzB8v79ROW-vR-V4n/view?usp=sharing (also a few seconds,

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Oskar Maier
Hello Andrey, why do you discuss this on the dev mailing list? Is this supposed to be a bug report or a feature request? Than put it in the appropriate place (but with a proper description of the bug/desire feature). To me it looks more like something for the play raw sub forum (

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 14:17, Sturm Flut : > Hi, > > ignoring that this is one of the cases where not setting the camera to > "Auto" would have resulted in a much better picture and avoided most of > the issue to begin with: > Av-priority. Just a technical image to explore nr tools. > > Profiled

Re: [darktable-dev] active module jumps onto another image

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Obry
Hello Alexander, Should be fixed in Git master. Thanks for reporting. Best, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://photos.obry.net http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Obry
Hi Andrey, Sorry guys - nobody showed me the power of dt yet. > Thanks. Sorry for disturbance. Good luck. > Your messages sound like nothing will make you change your mind. You're set on a mode where you think dt is a crap at denoising images. So no problem. Keep using DPP is this fits your

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Sturm Flut
Hi, ignoring that this is one of the cases where not setting the camera to "Auto" would have resulted in a much better picture and avoided most of the issue to begin with: Profiled Denoise in Wavelet mode with strength 0.2 already looks pretty identical to what DPP does, at least to me. XMP is

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
Sorry guys - nobody showed me the power of dt yet. Thanks. Sorry for disturbance. Good luck. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:48, Maurizio Paglia : > Ciao Andrey, > believe me: I understand your frustration but I can assure dt can give you > optimal results with no pain. > Its GUI can intimidate many

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Ciao Andrey, believe me: I understand your frustration but I can assure dt can give you optimal results with no pain. Its GUI can intimidate many users because it is "Linux style" (RT imitate LR so it is more friendly to many people) but you cannot have power with a 'single slider' interface...

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I have read the manual. Please, read the whole discussion and try to process the image with RT close enough to DPP or RT. Note the time and compare results side by side. Thank you. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 12:57, Matej Martinovic : > I haven't read the whole discussion, but have you read the

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Matej Martinovic
I haven't read the whole discussion, but have you read the manual? If not, please read "3.4.4.3. Denoise – profiled" in https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/correction_group.html All you "need" are two instances. Both can be saved as presets to be automatically applied. BR Matej On

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I did tried some authored presets found somewhere on the web. And I am still on windows with dpp. You see.. this is not a photographer workflow. DT is some kind of technical toy. I wouldn't try to explain denoise tools logic of DT to my wife who got into photography. This is the main problem. And

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Hi, just for the record, did you tried to use some presets? I understand dt can appear difficult, so you can try to apply a preset and then - if needed - only adjust some sliders. Tanks, Maurizio Il giorno lun 5 nov 2018 alle ore 09:06 Andrey ha scritto: > I like your work. We have got a nice

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I like your work. We have got a nice bench, lever is ok, but the bear.. darktable vs dpp: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G026G5va8h-V8Mqn0HlghslN7vKnfvwG darktable vs rawtherapee: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15hxaZDOh0Cqrs3IptcEdH_kPjSuu-NR9 I've tried to recover the bear, but my result is