Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-25 Thread Aaron Digulla
Am 24.04.2012 15:53, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Question is posted. Thanks a lot. Is there a way I can follow the discussion? The search doesn't show up anything :-/

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-25 Thread Wayne Beaton
IP questions are kept private. Wayne On 04/25/2012 02:42 PM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Am 24.04.2012 15:53, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Question is posted. Thanks a lot. Is there a way I can follow the discussion? The search doesn't show up anything :-/

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-25 Thread Denis Roy
Why? On 04/25/2012 03:20 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote: IP questions are kept private. Wayne On 04/25/2012 02:42 PM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Am 24.04.2012 15:53, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Question is posted. Thanks a lot. Is there a way I can follow the discussion? The search doesn't show up anything

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-25 Thread Aaron Digulla
Am 25.04.2012 21:45, schrieb Denis Roy: Sure, for CQs, but this is discussion involving licensing and copyright initiated by a member of our community (and a committer, no less). I don't understand why such discussion would need to happen behind closed doors, especially considering we

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-25 Thread Miles Parker
I'm guessing it's just an accident of how the IP system was setup, e.g. no set of permissions set up for IP questions vs. actual CQs. On 2012-04-25, at 12:58 PM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Am 25.04.2012 21:45, schrieb Denis Roy: Sure, for CQs, but this is discussion involving licensing and

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-25 Thread Denis Roy
Could be -- but I implemented that functionality, and I don't remember that to be part of the design. I'll look into it. On 04/25/2012 04:00 PM, Miles Parker wrote: I'm guessing it's just an accident of how the IP system was setup, e.g. no set of permissions set up for IP questions vs.

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-24 Thread Aaron Digulla
Zitat von Wayne Beaton wa...@eclipse.org: Right. That functionality is limited to Project Leads and PMC members. Sorry about that. What have we learned yesterday? open source isn't that open after all ;-) I guess that I'll have to pose the question. Thanks. Can you give me some words to

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-24 Thread Wayne Beaton
On 04/24/2012 05:43 AM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Zitat von Wayne Beaton wa...@eclipse.org: Right. That functionality is limited to Project Leads and PMC members. Sorry about that. What have we learned yesterday? open source isn't that open after all ;-) Sorry... hot button item. What is your

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-24 Thread Wayne Beaton
Question is posted. Wayne On 04/24/2012 05:43 AM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Zitat von Wayne Beaton wa...@eclipse.org: Right. That functionality is limited to Project Leads and PMC members. Sorry about that. What have we learned yesterday? open source isn't that open after all ;-) I guess

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-24 Thread Miles Parker
On 2012-04-24, at 9:21 AM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Zitat von Wayne Beaton wa...@eclipse.org: How is this not open? As I said yesterday: It's not open because I can't simply copy code from GPL'd projects or other OSS sources without causing a lot of trouble :-) OK, I'll be the first to

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-24 Thread Andrew Overholt
OK, I'll be the first to point out that you can't *ever* copy code from GPL'd projects, and that GPL isn't OSS. ;) Hahahahahaha. Andrew ___ dash-dev mailing list dash-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/dash-dev

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-24 Thread Wayne Beaton
I'm just happy to see all this open communication on the Dash dev list. Wayne On 04/24/2012 01:23 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote: OK, I'll be the first to point out that you can't *ever* copy code from GPL'd projects, and that GPL isn't OSS. ;) Hahahahahaha. Andrew

[dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Aaron Digulla
Hello, I've stumbled over one of these corner cases: I copied 7 lines of code from stackoverflow.com (http://stackoverflow.com/a/3758880/34088) The code isn't an OSS project, it's not under a specific license and I feel that it's not worth the effort to run this through the standard IP process.

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Wayne Beaton
The copied code is intellectual property and as such is subject to the Eclipse IP Due Diligence process. It can only be distributed from eclipse.org (e.g. a source code repository) if we have clear license from the author to do so. Yes, it's a small bit of code, but the full IP process still

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Aaron Digulla
Am 23.04.2012 19:24, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Alternatively, I think we can make the case that Stack Overflow contributions are CC-licensed [1] and treat the code similar to a third-party library. However, I believe that license compatibility will be complicated. Here is some material to

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Wayne Beaton
Sounds like a plan. Wayne On 04/23/2012 01:47 PM, Aaron Digulla wrote: How about I open an IP request so the lawyers can give a nod to the rule? This would create a simple, safe solution for all Eclipse developers because I bet that I wasn't the first one to wonder - I was just the first

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Aaron Digulla
Am 23.04.2012 20:08, schrieb Miles Parker: That's kind of perverse, given that one of the major points of Open Source is to be able to share code with one another... rant OSS is not about sharing code with just anyone; it's only with anyone you happen to like! The main difference to

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Aaron Digulla
Am 23.04.2012 19:59, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Sounds like a plan. Since this is my first attempt to do this: That means I should open a CQ request on ipzilla, right? What project should I select? eclipse.platform? How about I open an IP request so the lawyers can give a nod to the rule? This

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Wayne Beaton
Good question. Go to the portal, select any project (it doesn't matter) in the Eclipse Projects component. Click on the [pose] a question about general legal issue option. That'll take you to the right place. (or just go here:

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Aaron Digulla
Am 23.04.2012 21:01, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Good question. Go to the portal, select any project (it doesn't matter) in the Eclipse Projects component. Click on the [pose] a question about general legal issue option. That'll take you to the right place. (or just go here:

Re: [dash-dev] IP Cleanliness question

2012-04-23 Thread Wayne Beaton
Right. That functionality is limited to Project Leads and PMC members. Sorry about that. I guess that I'll have to pose the question. Can you give me some words to start from? Thanks, Wayne On 04/23/2012 04:01 PM, Aaron Digulla wrote: Am 23.04.2012 21:01, schrieb Wayne Beaton: Good