Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-16 Thread Claus Färber
Ben Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:05:00PM +0200, Claus Färber wrote: >> Not all languages use suffixes when writing numbers. In German, for >> example, you'd just write "14. Juli". (Actually, it's spoken >> "vierzehn*ter* Juli", but one does not write "14te

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-16 Thread Ben Bennett
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:05:00PM +0200, Claus Färber wrote: > Iain Truskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > > * Ben Bennett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Jul 2003 13:10]: > > My quibble; the name. I'm not a huge fan of ::Simple and ::Lite. > > Unfortunately, I can't think of a nice alternate for i

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Dave Rolsky schreef: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > > > > 200210131:02 > > > > No! Egads :-) Actually I wasn't accepting the form 200210130102 > > either (I will accept 20021013T0102). Should I? > > Is the former form unambiguous? If so, you mighta s well accept it. 20021013

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Bennett
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:40:16AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > > > Actually, I was thinking that this would be done when generating the > locale modules. It shouldn't be _too_ hard, I think. Sorry, that was where I was intending to fiddle with, I just w

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > > We'd have to look at the _actual_ format strings to do this, but it's > > certainly possible. > > Ok, I will play around with this and see if all of the locales have > understandable short forms. Actually, I was thinking that this would be done when gen

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > > and maybe even: > > > > 200210131:02 > > No! Egads :-) Actually I wasn't accepting the form 200210130102 > either (I will accept 20021013T0102). Should I? Is the former form unambiguous? If so, you mighta s well accept it. > > Also, don't forge

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > > > Ommissions from Date::Parse: > > > - July 14th will not be parsed (I don't have localized info on the > > >numeric suffixes) > > > > How about you just assume /\d{1,2}\w+/? > > Perhaps, I will play with it when the rest is finished. Input from >

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread John Siracusa
On 7/15/03 8:05 AM, Ben Bennett wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:14:00AM -0400, John Siracusa wrote: >> I'm sure you're already doing this, but just in case, make sure to allow for >> single-digit numbers where there is no ambiguity. [...] > > Yes. (Also stuff like "10/25/2003 5 p.m." Just ch

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Bennett
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:39:37PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > > > Which leads to my problem, there appears to be no simple way to get > > the date order to differentiate m/d/y from d/m/y. I can look at the > > time formats and try to work it out, but tha

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Bennett
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 12:14:00AM -0400, John Siracusa wrote: > On 7/14/03 11:10 PM, Ben Bennett wrote: [...] > Sweet, someone took the bai--...er, "picked up the baton" ;) Well I have been playing around with the idea for a while, but when the locale stuff got in I decided it was time to stop fi

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Bennett
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:56:53PM +1000, Iain Truskett wrote: > * Ben Bennett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Jul 2003 13:10]: [...] > > My quibble; the name. I'm not a huge fan of ::Simple and ::Lite. > Unfortunately, I can't think of a nice alternate for it. Ok. I will think about that (suggestions we

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread Joshua Hoblitt
> > > My quibble; the name. I'm not a huge fan of ::Simple and ::Lite. > > > Unfortunately, I can't think of a nice alternate for it. > > > > I usually think of ::Simple as referring to a reduced interface. Maybe > > ::Basic is a better namespace. > > I like ::Common, since it's supposed to handle

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Joshua Hoblitt wrote: > > My quibble; the name. I'm not a huge fan of ::Simple and ::Lite. > > Unfortunately, I can't think of a nice alternate for it. > > I usually think of ::Simple as referring to a reduced interface. Maybe > ::Basic is a better namespace. I like ::Common

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread Joshua Hoblitt
> My quibble; the name. I'm not a huge fan of ::Simple and ::Lite. > Unfortunately, I can't think of a nice alternate for it. I usually think of ::Simple as referring to a reduced interface. Maybe ::Basic is a better namespace. -J --

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Ben Bennett wrote: > Which leads to my problem, there appears to be no simple way to get > the date order to differentiate m/d/y from d/m/y. I can look at the > time formats and try to work it out, but that seems a bit dodgy if you > ever change the parser, plus I assume that

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread John Siracusa
On 7/14/03 11:56 PM, Iain Truskett wrote: > My quibble; the name. I'm not a huge fan of ::Simple and ::Lite. > Unfortunately, I can't think of a nice alternate for it. ::Basic, maybe? Or ::Default, if we want to be boring about it. >> Which leads to my problem, there appears to be no simple way

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread John Siracusa
On 7/14/03 11:10 PM, Ben Bennett wrote: > I am taking a whack at DT::F::Simple (please speak up now if anyone > else wants to claim this project) that can parse things that are > similar to the ones that Date::Parse can do. Sweet, someone took the bai--...er, "picked up the baton" ;) > Namely: >

Re: DateTime::Format::Simple and Indication of month/day/year or d/m/y in Locales...

2003-07-14 Thread Iain Truskett
* Ben Bennett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Jul 2003 13:10]: > I am taking a whack at DT::F::Simple (please speak up now if anyone > else wants to claim this project) that can parse things that are > similar to the ones that Date::Parse can do. I was going to do it, but probably wouldn't get around to