Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread Niall O'Reilly via db-wg
On 22 Nov 2022, at 19:11, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote: Careful with this, e.g. AS-NULL. There are some situations where referencing an empty set can be useful in RPSL. I'm not sure whether Nick meant this as a single exception, or rather as an example of a category of useful empty sets. I c

Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread denis walker via db-wg
Hi Nick On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 20:11, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > denis walker via db-wg wrote on 22/11/2022 19:00: > > Any thoughts on this? There are 2128 AUT-NUM objects with source > > RIPE-NONAUTH. Do we want these to be able to authorise the creation of > > hierarchical AS-SET objects when we

Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread Job Snijders via db-wg
On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 07:11:17PM +, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote: > Careful with this, e.g. AS-NULL. There are some situations where > referencing an empty set can be useful in RPSL. For 'AS-NULL' back history see this thread: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2014-December/thre

Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread Nick Hilliard via db-wg
denis walker via db-wg wrote on 22/11/2022 19:00: Any thoughts on this? There are 2128 AUT-NUM objects with source RIPE-NONAUTH. Do we want these to be able to authorise the creation of hierarchical AS-SET objects when we don't know who maintains the AUT-NUM objects? I don't see a particular re

Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread Gert Doering via db-wg
Hi, On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 08:00:47PM +0100, denis walker via db-wg wrote: > Another suggestion. There are 1361 short named AS-SET objects that > don't have any 'members' or 'mbrs-by-ref' attributes. In other words > they are operationally empty objects. (This includes AS-AMAZON.) We > could intr

Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread denis walker via db-wg
Colleagues On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 13:54, denis walker wrote: > > One question to the community...do we want to disallow authorisation > of new AS-SET objects from ASNs in RIPE-NONAUTH? > Any thoughts on this? There are 2128 AUT-NUM objects with source RIPE-NONAUTH. Do we want these to be able to

Re: [db-wg] proposal: disallow creation of new non-hierarchically named AS-SET objects

2022-11-22 Thread Edward Shryane via db-wg
Hi Denis, Colleagues, Following is the impact analysis of NWI-19. Low impact on Whois. * The DB team will disallow the creation of AS-SET objects which follow the 'short' naming style (i.e. starting with 'AS-' and without a colon). * Only AS-SET objects which follow the 'hierarchical' naming