Re: [db-wg] NWI-5 Out of region ROUTE(6)/AUT-NUM objects implementation request

2017-12-12 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
On 05/12/2017, 11:11, Tim Bruijnzeels via db-wg typed: > > > We suggest the following solution as a basis for further discussion. > > 1) Remove the "origin:" authorization requirement > the "mnt-routes:" attribute on AUT-NUM objects will no longer be useful. We > propose that the attribute is

Re: [db-wg] Foreign ROUTE objects in RIPE Database - final decision?

2017-10-17 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- On 17/10/2017, 03:24, William Sylvester via db-wg typed: > > > 1) Remove the "origin:" authorization requirement. RIPE is currently the only > RIR that requires this, the current implementation creates data concurrency > issues across Internet databases by requiring

Re: [db-wg] Foreign ROUTE objects in RIPE Database - final decision?

2017-10-17 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- On 11/10/2017, 18:22, Saschatyped: > > >> Question - Should the RIPE Database allow creation of ROUTE objects for non >> RIPE resources? This question has to be split into two to be able to be answered. Part 1: Should RIPE DB allow creation of route/route6 objects whe

Re: [db-wg] Foreign ROUTE objects in RIPE Database - final decision?

2017-10-17 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- On 11/10/2017, 17:48, Nick Hilliard via db-wg typed: > > > Job Snijders wrote: >> I think this touches upon an incredibly important question: how do we >> distinguish between garbage and properly authenticated "route:" >> objects covering RIPE-managed space? > > and more

Re: [db-wg] Foreign ROUTE objects in RIPE Database - final decision?

2017-10-11 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- On 11/10/2017, 14:09, Job Snijders via db-wgtyped: > You > as network operator can easily poll the APNIC or AFRINIC database. > There are even a number of "IRR aggregation services" such as NTTCOM > and RADB which mirror a ton of IRRs for your querying convenience. Witho

Re: [db-wg] out of region routing in the RIPE Database

2017-08-10 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- On 11/08/2017, 05:14, Randy Bush via db-wg typed: > >> >> databases. It's that they never have, and it's just the "way things >> have been done". It's always ended up that they *can* support multiple >> databases if asked to. > > when negotiating with a prospective pee

Re: [db-wg] out of region routing in the RIPE Database

2017-08-09 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- Hi there, On 09/08/2017, 19:34, Stefan Ideler via db-wg typed: > > > As a result our route objects regardless of origin are noted in the RIPE > database. Our upstreams use it to generate their prefix filters (and not all > of them support multiple databases) I won't c

Re: [db-wg] out of region routing in the RIPE Database

2017-07-18 Thread Daniel Shaw via db-wg
--- Begin Message --- On 18/07/2017, 15:26, Nick Hilliard via db-wg typed: > > > There are two main ways to fix this problem: > > 1. change all non-RIPE address space to have a different source: tag > > 2. remove all non-RIPE address space completely > > There is some previous discussion abo