Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandru Todor
Hi Peter, Sorry for that, I didn't notice that "pfps" was the account name from your first mail. Since, thanks to Jona, you've already received editor rights, I also welcome you to the DBpedia mappings community. Cheers, Alexandru On Apr 16, 2014 3:32 AM, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" < peter.patel

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2014-04-15 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
I agree that it seems harder to crowdsource ontologies. However, Wikipedia seems to have a half-decent organization, so maybe it is possible. My view is that Wikipedia is succeeding, and not just in overall organization, because there are Wikipedia editors that challenge and remove incorrect an

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2014-04-15 Thread Mike Bergman
Hi Peter, My observation is that crowdsourced knowledge bases (namely, Wikipedia, DBpedia, schema.org, Freebase, etc) can be excellent sources for the description and characterization of things and entities, but the structures that may be derived from them will by definition be incoherent at t

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2014-04-15 Thread Patel-Schneider, Peter
Hmm. Well, perhaps one could argue that there should be no hierarchy at all. Using the DBpedia ontology does commit you to a lot of things, many of them quite questionable. For example, in the DBpedia ontology churches are buildings, which is not true for many churches, and not even true for t

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Patel-Schneider, Peter
Thanks, I'll try not to let the power go to my head. peter On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt wrote: > I just gave you editing rights. Welcome! > > On 16 April 2014 02:31, Peter F. Patel-Schneider > wrote: >> pfps (see also below). >> >> peter >> >> On 04/15/2014 04:2

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt
I just gave you editing rights. Welcome! On 16 April 2014 02:31, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > pfps (see also below). > > peter > > On 04/15/2014 04:20 PM, Alexandru Todor wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Please tell us your user name in the mappings wiki so we can assign you >> editor rights. >>

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
pfps (see also below). peter On 04/15/2014 04:20 PM, Alexandru Todor wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Please tell us your user name in the mappings wiki so we can assign you > editor rights. > > Cheers, > Alexandru > > On Apr 16, 2014 2:04 AM, "Patel-Schneider, Peter" > mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nua

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2014-04-15 Thread Paul Houle
I try not to get hung up on the idea of having one right hierarchy but assume most end users will need to interpret the types that exist in the way that makes sense for what they are doing. The idea of foaf:Agent, which is a superclass of both person and organization, is a powerful concept becau

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandru Todor
Hi Peter, Please tell us your user name in the mappings wiki so we can assign you editor rights. Cheers, Alexandru On Apr 16, 2014 2:04 AM, "Patel-Schneider, Peter" < peter.patel-schnei...@nuance.com> wrote: > I has been a couple of days since I signed up for a wiki account as pfps, > but no edi

[Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Patel-Schneider, Peter
I has been a couple of days since I signed up for a wiki account as pfps, but no editing rights have ensued so I am asking for them here, as directed byhttp://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/Main_Page peter -- Learn Gr

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2014-04-15 Thread Patel-Schneider, Peter
schema.org is controlled by the schema.org partners, Google, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex. Contributions from the community are accepted, but are vetted before being added to schema.org See http://schema.org for more information. One problem with alignment to schema.org is that the formal meaning

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] generation of rdf:type triples for general classes and non-ontology classes

2014-04-15 Thread Patel-Schneider, Peter
On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:40 AM, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt wrote: > On 15 April 2014 03:32, Patel-Schneider, Peter > wrote: >> >> […] >> >> peter >> >> PS: Looking at intermediate results in this pipeline shows that DBpedia has >> some issues with newlines in resource names. >> > > That wou

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] generation of rdf:type triples for general classes and non-ontology classes

2014-04-15 Thread Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt
On 15 April 2014 03:32, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt > wrote: > > > > On Monday, 14 April 2014, Patel-Schneider, Peter > wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas >> wrote: >> >> >> >> It is easier to have t

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] generation of rdf:type triples for general classes and non-ontology classes

2014-04-15 Thread Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt
On 15 April 2014 03:05, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt > wrote: > > > > On Monday, 14 April 2014, Patel-Schneider, Peter > wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 14, 201

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] generation of rdf:type triples for general classes and non-ontology classes

2014-04-15 Thread Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt
On 15 April 2014 03:05, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt > wrote: > > > > On Monday, 14 April 2014, Patel-Schneider, Peter > wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 14, 201

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] A quick analysis of the classes in the DBpedia ontology

2014-04-15 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/15/14 1:06 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: Kingsley's approach is one way to go but I think we should focus on fixing the ontology in the source, which is the mappings wiki. The German chapter is working on ways to automatically import axioms in the mappings wiki, so of course this is an op

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] generation of rdf:type triples for general classes and non-ontology classes

2014-04-15 Thread Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt
On 15 April 2014 06:44, Patel-Schneider, Peter wrote: > Oops. This doesn't catch the problematic situations, because the extra > owl:Thing triple is not generated. > > It would be nice to have some documentation on just how the general type > triples are added. I'm afraid there is no better docu

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] A quick analysis of the classes in the DBpedia ontology

2014-04-15 Thread Alexandru Todor
> > The German chapter is working on ways to automatically import axioms in > the mappings wiki, so of course this is an option too. We can more or less do this since we are already inserting labels into the ontology in batch mode [1]. It would be quite helpful for us if someone interested in edi