Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-11 Thread Francois Marier
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Proposal: > > Any public presentation which is part of any event, including but not > limited to keynotes, presentations, lightning talks, addresses, mailing list > posts and forums, is subject to this code of conduc

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-11 Thread Francois Marier
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Proposal: > > Any public presentation which is part of any event, including but not > limited to keynotes, presentations, lightning talks, addresses, mailing list > posts and forums, is subject to this code of conduc

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-10 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Proposal: > > Any public presentation which is part of any event, including but not > limited to keynotes, presentations, lightning talks, addresses, mailing list > posts and forums, is subject to this code of conduc

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity"): > Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 07:44:48PM +0100]: > > Right. Her talk (which I found very interesting and illuminating) > > raised somewhat different issues. ... > Biella&#x

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-07 Thread Marcelo Gutierrez
2014-09-07 16:28 GMT-06:00 Gunnar Wolf : > Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 07:44:48PM +0100]: > > Right. Her talk (which I found very interesting and illuminating) > > raised somewhat different issues. > > > > It would have been impossible for her to deal properly with her > > subject matt

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Margarita Manterola dijo [Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:13:07PM +]: > Hi, > > Thanks Russ for raising this issue, I think it's worthy of discussion. > > My feeling is that completely forbidding profanity (or whatever the > right word for it is, profanity also seems wrong) doesn't benefit > DebConf.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 07:44:48PM +0100]: > Right. Her talk (which I found very interesting and illuminating) > raised somewhat different issues. > > It would have been impossible for her to deal properly with her > subject matter without quoting (and showing) some of her primary

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-05 Thread Patty Langasek
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:13:07PM +, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Proposal: > > Any public presentation which is part of any event, including but not > limited to keynotes, presentations, lightning talks, addresses, mailing list > posts and forums, is subject to this code

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:13:07 +, Margarita Manterola wrote: > My feeling is that completely forbidding profanity (or whatever the > right word for it is, profanity also seems wrong) doesn't benefit > DebConf. > Personally, I do want people to "be excellent to each other", to > treat each other

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 5. September 2014, Margarita Manterola wrote: > -Adult or expletive language; > -Language which is not appropriate for an all-ages audience. > +Insults or ad-hominem attacks; > + We also ask you to avoid language which is not appropriate for an > all-ages audience as mu

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi, Thanks Russ for raising this issue, I think it's worthy of discussion. My feeling is that completely forbidding profanity (or whatever the right word for it is, profanity also seems wrong) doesn't benefit DebConf. Personally, I do want people to "be excellent to each other", to treat each

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Josh Triplett
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 09:16:15PM +0200, alberto fuentes wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > > > +1. > > > > I'd like to add that restraining oneself from using profanity (either > > as a speaker or as an audience member) in a public venue is common > > courtesy. S

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > +1. > > I'd like to add that restraining oneself from using profanity (either > as a speaker or as an audience member) in a public venue is common > courtesy. Similarly as we choose our words when speaking to strangers. > I might be tempte

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:11:11PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I should preface this by saying that I personally don't feel that strongly >> about this one way or the other. But it came up in another forum that >> isn't the right place to t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ben Hutchings [2014-09-04 10:58 -0700]: > It has also not been unusual for a few expletives to appear in > slides or spoken words in talks at previous DebConfs. So far as > I know, that hasn't been something people complained about in the > past. > > Given that people are now bringin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:11:11PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I should preface this by saying that I personally don't feel that strongly > about this one way or the other. But it came up in another forum that > isn't the right place to talk about it, and I've been trying to make a > point of doi

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity"): > Biella also tweeted one of her slides in advance of her talk, and I > pointed out the rule to her then. I believe she subsequently discussed > the (considerable) number of quoted exple

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 20:11 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I should preface this by saying that I personally don't feel that strongly > about this one way or the other. But it came up in another forum that > isn't the right place to talk about it, and I've been trying to make a > point of doing my p

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > This provision has been ignored on our mailing lists for as long as I've > been a member of the project. There was some recent discussion of the > packet radio reference that concluded that this justification was rather > dubious. I wonder if

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Russ Allbery
alberto fuentes writes: > [...] > [0] Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists > via packet radio, where swearing is illegal. > [...] > Please refrain from using those words in here. Use poo and m'kay instead[1] > [0] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
alberto fuentes writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity"): > [0] Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists > via packet radio, where swearing is illegal. I doubt anyone is streaming Debconf video over packet radio. My exper

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > To be specific about what words I'm talking about, I have seen people use > both "" and "" in a professional HR presentation context with > basically no reaction (although the latter is much less common). Several > speakers used those